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		<title>by: blondie</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445615</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:34:25 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I think Romney is the Wink Martindale of this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think Romney is the Wink Martindale of this election.
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		<title>by: epistemology</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445357</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:16:26 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Rudy is unelectable in the general election. A big city mayor, multiple divorces, kids that hate him, pictures of him in drag, pro-choice. But the killer is he is anti-gun.  Rudy has an anti-gun record; he's dead in the water. Especially with their fury at the current Republican mayor of New York whose anti-gun crusade has made Bloomberg public enemy number one for the NRA.

The religious right may buy born again conversion to anti-choice, but the NRA ain't buying a born again pro gun stance. 

The reason he is doing well is that the Democrats are trying to sucker the Republicans into picking Rudy, as the Republicans are trying to sucker the Dems into picking Hillary. It is astonishing how much respect Hillary gets on Fox News.

When the primaries are decided, out come the smears. Problem for the Republicans is that Hillary has been smeared six ways to Sunday, and they haven't even scratched the surface with Rudy.

There is a reason why Rudy declined to challenge Hillary in his home turf, New York, for senate: He tested the waters, and figured out Hillary would whoop him. She will nationally, too. But so would John Edwards (who the Republicans clearly fear the most), and probably Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rudy is unelectable in the general election. A big city mayor, multiple divorces, kids that hate him, pictures of him in drag, pro-choice. But the killer is he is anti-gun.  Rudy has an anti-gun record; he&#8217;s dead in the water. Especially with their fury at the current Republican mayor of New York whose anti-gun crusade has made Bloomberg public enemy number one for the NRA.</p>
	<p>The religious right may buy born again conversion to anti-choice, but the NRA ain&#8217;t buying a born again pro gun stance. </p>
	<p>The reason he is doing well is that the Democrats are trying to sucker the Republicans into picking Rudy, as the Republicans are trying to sucker the Dems into picking Hillary. It is astonishing how much respect Hillary gets on Fox News.</p>
	<p>When the primaries are decided, out come the smears. Problem for the Republicans is that Hillary has been smeared six ways to Sunday, and they haven&#8217;t even scratched the surface with Rudy.</p>
	<p>There is a reason why Rudy declined to challenge Hillary in his home turf, New York, for senate: He tested the waters, and figured out Hillary would whoop him. She will nationally, too. But so would John Edwards (who the Republicans clearly fear the most), and probably Obama.
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		<title>by: Eric</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445350</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:55:05 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Ooops, my goof. That should read:


Romney’s the only one who looks presidential. He’s this election’s Republican Kerry (wait, they had one already: Dewey). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ooops, my goof. That should read:</p>
	<p>Romney’s the only one who looks presidential. He’s this election’s Republican Kerry (wait, they had one already: Dewey).
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		<title>by: Eric</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445348</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:52:04 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Romney’s the only one who looks presidential. He’s this election’s Republican Kerry (wait, they had one already: Dewey).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Romney’s the only one who looks presidential. He’s this election’s Republican Kerry (wait, they had one already: Dewey).
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		<title>by: BetsyD</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445276</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:36:44 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I've said this before and I'll say it again: given that the &quot;pro-family&quot; crowd is actually the &quot;pro-patriarchy&quot; crowd, they're not going to be too bothered by Giuliani sticking it to his wife and children, especially since his son was famously hyperactive (in the descriptive, not the diagnostic sense) and it was widely reported in the New York press that Donna Hanover was going to perform in The Vagina Monologues just before they split up.  Giuliani=tough daddy (with rebellious wife and kids) is how they'll be able to rationalize his seemingly anti-family behavior.

It's also stunning to me every time I realize how many Americans hate New York City (for totally spurious reasons; it's the safest large city in the country, for pete's sake!)  And Giuliani can credibly run against his own hometown, especially since spineless Democrats tolerate Republican attacks on whole sections of the country where millions of Americans live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve said this before and I&#8217;ll say it again: given that the &#8220;pro-family&#8221; crowd is actually the &#8220;pro-patriarchy&#8221; crowd, they&#8217;re not going to be too bothered by Giuliani sticking it to his wife and children, especially since his son was famously hyperactive (in the descriptive, not the diagnostic sense) and it was widely reported in the New York press that Donna Hanover was going to perform in The Vagina Monologues just before they split up.  Giuliani=tough daddy (with rebellious wife and kids) is how they&#8217;ll be able to rationalize his seemingly anti-family behavior.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s also stunning to me every time I realize how many Americans hate New York City (for totally spurious reasons; it&#8217;s the safest large city in the country, for pete&#8217;s sake!)  And Giuliani can credibly run against his own hometown, especially since spineless Democrats tolerate Republican attacks on whole sections of the country where millions of Americans live.
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		<title>by: tricia</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445250</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:15:17 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;b&gt;drydock:&lt;/b&gt; In case you haven't noticed there are at least a few comments in this thread alone addressing violence and crime. You just don't want to hear that violent crime in most areas is a &lt;i&gt;poverty&lt;/i&gt; issue. And poverty issues are certainly addressed more by liberal candidates than conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b>drydock:</b> In case you haven&#8217;t noticed there are at least a few comments in this thread alone addressing violence and crime. You just don&#8217;t want to hear that violent crime in most areas is a <i>poverty</i> issue. And poverty issues are certainly addressed more by liberal candidates than conservatives.
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		<title>by: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445245</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:46:55 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Where am I wrong here?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, looking at your attempted historical accounts, pretty much everywhere.  That's some intellectual dishonesty and historical ignorance ranking up there with Anne Coulter.  So much idiocy in one comment. That truly was a work of art, Jabba.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Where am I wrong here?</p></blockquote>
	<p>Well, looking at your attempted historical accounts, pretty much everywhere.  That&#8217;s some intellectual dishonesty and historical ignorance ranking up there with Anne Coulter.  So much idiocy in one comment. That truly was a work of art, Jabba.
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		<title>by: drydock</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445231</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:46:07 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Mark-- The violence happening in urban communities isn't media hysteria, it's very real. How the media covers it is open to debate. That said, perhaps some of the  &quot;allies&quot; here might want to check the link I put to the black columnists sounding the alarm on the crime issue and not just hand the issue over to right wingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mark&#8211; The violence happening in urban communities isn&#8217;t media hysteria, it&#8217;s very real. How the media covers it is open to debate. That said, perhaps some of the  &#8220;allies&#8221; here might want to check the link I put to the black columnists sounding the alarm on the crime issue and not just hand the issue over to right wingers.
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		<title>by: weboy</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445229</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:42:40 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd disagree with a bit of the premise - I don't see a lot of Democrats mystified by Giuliani's popularity - why his campaign attracts GOP voters in at least a surface sense has always been apparent.  The question, which seems to perplex everyone is whether he can see his initial appeal through to winning the whole thing.  I remain skeptical in that regard, because I think as New Yorkers found, the more you see of Giuliani, the less the surface appeal matters.  At some point, the divorces, the poor relationship with the kids, the 9/11 weaknesses, the police brutality questions... so much else... all of this starts to add up.  No one wears his strengths and his flaws as openly as Giuliani, and it's the flaws that will do him in.  I don't think Dems should lose sight of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d disagree with a bit of the premise - I don&#8217;t see a lot of Democrats mystified by Giuliani&#8217;s popularity - why his campaign attracts GOP voters in at least a surface sense has always been apparent.  The question, which seems to perplex everyone is whether he can see his initial appeal through to winning the whole thing.  I remain skeptical in that regard, because I think as New Yorkers found, the more you see of Giuliani, the less the surface appeal matters.  At some point, the divorces, the poor relationship with the kids, the 9/11 weaknesses, the police brutality questions&#8230; so much else&#8230; all of this starts to add up.  No one wears his strengths and his flaws as openly as Giuliani, and it&#8217;s the flaws that will do him in.  I don&#8217;t think Dems should lose sight of that.
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		<title>by: the opoponax</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/25/why-rudy-could-win/#comment-445226</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:34:00 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>whoops -- just did a little fact checking, and Melancon wasn't elected after Katrina.  He went into office at the beginning of 2005, and Katrina didn't happen till August.  

Well then he's a true anomaly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>whoops &#8212; just did a little fact checking, and Melancon wasn&#8217;t elected after Katrina.  He went into office at the beginning of 2005, and Katrina didn&#8217;t happen till August.  </p>
	<p>Well then he&#8217;s a true anomaly.
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