@shaenon: My response would have been, “Oh, he’ll need to, all right.”

Can I see the rest of the list, please?

Just checking…

Hmm, I’ve never engaged in lesbianism, and I STILL don’t know what that’s like–possibly because every instance of heterosexual sex doesn’t automatically result in a baby, thank God.

“She will never know the security of a true man protecting her from the dragons of the world and providing for her an environment where she can nurture and give love to that little life once it arrives,”

Man, has this guy been living under a rock. If he thinks all heterosexual unions are perfect fairy tales, he should try reading the newspaper sometime. Oy.

Not necessarily. Let us envision the average fundie as he engages in the sex act which could result in pregnancy. That makes him think about babies — naked, naked, babies — which increases his sexual pleasure to a degree unknown by the non-fundie.

Why did God give the animals a regulator and not us?

There’s a wonderful Ainu legend about that (the Ainu are the original inhabitants of Japan, now only found in the north). Apparently, at creation God called a meeting of all living beings to set their breeding times. Man was last in line, and in front of him was the horse. The horse was so excited when God told him the breeding season that it jumped for joy and planted a hoof right in God’s forehead, severely inconveniencing the Divinity. Man marches in for his word, and finds God groaning and holding His head. Man still puts the question, and God, who is thinking about other things, groans “Oh, do it whenever you want!” And that is why man does not have a breeding season like the animals.

We’d been trying for 18 months to get pregnant without success, and we’d already started seeing a reproductive endocrinologist. Nothing was discernably wrong with either of us, so we just had to pass through their gauntlet of procedures. I was grateful of the idea of using artificial insemination to get pregnant, because I was hoping that sex could again return to a source of pleasure and not of source of obligation with side orders of guilt and failure. We did one cycle with ovulatory drugs (that made me feel like I was bubbling with eggs…creepy shit, man) and an insemination, and it didn’t take. The next month we couldn’t do another cycle for various reasons, but we had a hard time mustering up any desire to have sex. We were emotionally exhausted from the trying, the fear of procedures ahead, and the stress of figuring out what ways of becoming parents might work for us. But it became time when I was sure I was ovulating, and so we had sex, and at the end of the month I found out I was pregnant.

That it worked is awesome — I’m happy to be pregnant, and I look forward to parenthood even when it scares the ever loving shit out of me. But any asshole that says that sexual pleasure is for procreation hasn’t had to try to get knocked up. When you’re trying to procreate, sex can be no fun at all.

After I got the pregnancy test back, I said to my guy, “Want to have some strictly non-procreative sex?” Only then did I see the light in his eyes that I’d missed for months, and that sex just for fun rocked the party that rocked the body.

I thought fundies weren’t into RPGs, though.

Really? Because I would think Rocket Propelled Grenades would be right up their alleys …

After all … “BRING ON THE HOLY HAND GRENADE!!”

;)

It isn’t that we can’t make laws regarding people’s choices. It is that just because something is a choice doesn’t define it as being suitable or unsuitable for a law.

Murder is a choice. Religion is a choice. The content of our speech is a choice. Rape is a choice. Which side of the road to drive on is a choice.

Some of those things are absolutely suitable for laws, while others are not.

It isn’t at all about the choice component, so the whole choice discussion regarding gay rights is a red herring. It’s never about choice. It is about harm.

And since being gay and living openly, including things like getting married, inheriting property, making medical choices, etc, do nobody at all any personal harm, that’s why we keep seeing “arguments” like “it destroys traditional marriage” or “it’s bad for the kids” - because, underlying all the choice rhetoric, the wingnuts really do understand that for a law to stand, it has to be related to some valid effort to prevent harm to others - and they don’t have a leg to stand on.

Of course, that isn’t to say that there aren’t plenty of stupid laws on the books all over the place, many of them enforced, that are regulating non-harmful behaviors, but that’s an entirely different discussion.

Ha. Foolish man to think he knows the mind of the Goddess. The Creator told me that as mouths were made for breathing, eating, and talking, so anuses were made for the elimination of solid waste and for sexual pleasure.

Good for her! Rock on! Say hi to her for us the next time you chat.

Can I have the emesis basin…instead?