Comments on: And now, a message about abstinence http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:19:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Anonymous http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-446863 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:14:30 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-446863 Though the part where he mentioned Homosexuality made me raise an eyebrow (I really wish my brothers and sisters wouldn't place such practices on a position of importance outside other sins), he's at least trying to bring awareness. Whether you're religious or not, liked the format or not (I frankly think it's a bit corny, but then again, to each his own), it still bears a practical message. So, give the guy a break. Though the part where he mentioned Homosexuality made me raise an eyebrow (I really wish my brothers and sisters wouldn’t place such practices on a position of importance outside other sins), he’s at least trying to bring awareness. Whether you’re religious or not, liked the format or not (I frankly think it’s a bit corny, but then again, to each his own), it still bears a practical message.

So, give the guy a break.

]]> by: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442881 Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:20:20 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442881 <blockquote>Y’know, like dead rabbits boiling in a pot</blockquote> <i>Whitey's Gooooooooooone!!</i> Had me laughing so fucking hard when I saw that movie. Dunno why, I just found that scene inappropriately hilarious.

Y’know, like dead rabbits boiling in a pot

Whitey’s Gooooooooooone!!

Had me laughing so fucking hard when I saw that movie. Dunno why, I just found that scene inappropriately hilarious.

]]> by: six-oh-seven-nine http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442835 Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:55:45 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442835 My own view is that no matter how bad this singer and song are, I would rather listen to that than sit through another Catholic folk mass led by a guitarist. Christianity is, at its core, a religion of pacifism, but Jesus folk songs always gave me the feeling noted in <i>Grosse Point Blank</i>: the certainty that all I wanted to do was kill somebody. My own view is that no matter how bad this singer and song are, I would rather listen to that than sit through another Catholic folk mass led by a guitarist. Christianity is, at its core, a religion of pacifism, but Jesus folk songs always gave me the feeling noted in Grosse Point Blank: the certainty that all I wanted to do was kill somebody.

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442739 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:52:04 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442739 <i>"Is masturbation included in abstinence?"</i> Touch your weewee or hooha and it's all over. Even dirty dreams are enough to condemn your soul. Hey, nobody ever said being a fundy nutcase was easy... “Is masturbation included in abstinence?”

Touch your weewee or hooha and it’s all over. Even dirty dreams are enough to condemn your soul.

Hey, nobody ever said being a fundy nutcase was easy…

]]> by: tricia http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442716 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:43:56 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442716 If too many people decide they're not actually teh eeeeevil sinnnerz, then fundy-type churches go out of business. If too many people decide they’re not actually teh eeeeevil sinnnerz, then fundy-type churches go out of business.

]]> by: Mark Foxwell http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442699 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:58:15 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442699 bernarda: I think, yes. At any rate those were the values I internalized being raised as a conservative Catholic in the '70s. (And the Catholic Church definitively calls masturbation "a grave moral disorder" or something like that.) If it were otherwise the whole dynamic would be rather different. The point is to drive people nuts with frustration, the better to manipulate them. (The fact that the manipulators are themselves self-manipulated...oh heck, you know what I mean...ahem. Anyway, I'm not talking about some cynical Inner Party simply pulling on marionette strings, but a self-perpetuating psychic system.) This is why activities that reasonable people can do reasonably, even things that are bedrock necessities of human life and happiness, are cast in the light of sinfullness, so that everyone is guilty and feels Big Brother looking over their shoulder, and everyone feels dependent on approval and validation from "higher up," because no one can feel they are on safe ground without their Protector. bernarda:

I think, yes. At any rate those were the values I internalized being raised as a conservative Catholic in the ’70s. (And the Catholic Church definitively calls masturbation “a grave moral disorder” or something like that.)

If it were otherwise the whole dynamic would be rather different. The point is to drive people nuts with frustration, the better to manipulate them. (The fact that the manipulators are themselves self-manipulated…oh heck, you know what I mean…ahem. Anyway, I’m not talking about some cynical Inner Party simply pulling on marionette strings, but a self-perpetuating psychic system.) This is why activities that reasonable people can do reasonably, even things that are bedrock necessities of human life and happiness, are cast in the light of sinfullness, so that everyone is guilty and feels Big Brother looking over their shoulder, and everyone feels dependent on approval and validation from “higher up,” because no one can feel they are on safe ground without their Protector.

]]> by: bernarda http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442698 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:48:03 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442698 Is masturbation included in abstinence? Jeebus and the disciples were good for circle jerks, at least. Not to mention the sheep and goats. Is masturbation included in abstinence?

Jeebus and the disciples were good for circle jerks, at least. Not to mention the sheep and goats.

]]> by: maatnofret http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442683 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:26:58 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442683 Saying, "Condoms have holes in them that allow all sorts of STDs to pass through."-- Jesus Christ. And that's the only Christian thing I can think to say about it. This may come as a surprise to this guy, but the young can smell bullshit. There are plenty of actual reasons for a young person to abstain from sex. A whopper like that one robs him of the ability to convey any of them. His lost credibility may, ironically, result in less abstention, not more. This also makes me glad that the church I was raised in was guitar free. Say what you want about the ELCA, but the choirs are usually good, epecially in Minnesota. As an antidote, here's another guy with a guitar singing about abstaining from sex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPClWkEdES8 Saying, “Condoms have holes in them that allow all sorts of STDs to pass through.”– Jesus Christ. And that’s the only Christian thing I can think to say about it.

This may come as a surprise to this guy, but the young can smell bullshit. There are plenty of actual reasons for a young person to abstain from sex. A whopper like that one robs him of the ability to convey any of them. His lost credibility may, ironically, result in less abstention, not more.

This also makes me glad that the church I was raised in was guitar free. Say what you want about the ELCA, but the choirs are usually good, epecially in Minnesota.

As an antidote, here’s another guy with a guitar singing about abstaining from sex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPClWkEdES8

]]> by: hbsweet, empress of ice cream http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442679 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:55:59 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442679 http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=c5280214e0486b273a5f&amp;page=1&amp;viewtype=&amp;category=mv Sorry--I can't remember how to post links properly: but this is has to be seen to be believed. I can only say, with SNL, "Sometimes a banana is just a banana." MAJeff, get out your god lube. http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=c5280214e0486b273a5f&page=1&viewtype=&category=mv

Sorry–I can’t remember how to post links properly: but this is has to be seen to be believed.
I can only say, with SNL, “Sometimes a banana is just a banana.”

MAJeff, get out your god lube.

]]> by: Fiona http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442674 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:03:34 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/17/and-now-a-message-about-abstinence/#comment-442674 I love how he mentions how easy the chorus is. It's like he put all his effort into writing the verses and then gave up. I love how he mentions how easy the chorus is. It’s like he put all his effort into writing the verses and then gave up.

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