Comments on: The real face of class warfare, Bobo edition http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:09:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: has_te http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435719 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:10:21 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435719 Oooo...quite a change. Assume scabby troll defenses Post was lost...won't tell ya where else it got [Offsprung..nice place] I am so self-absorbed. "SO, so-ooo torn. And not that any of my 'strange bubblings-up' are two-blog-worthy but maybe some will actually rise to the boil..somewhere. Here-- from P'gon. "We have GOT to stop using THEIR 'Economy' word! They use it to imply that there IS a common extant & actual framework for how well one is doing. [In the day there might actually...have been.] Their GDP doesn't reflect shit about how I'm doing. It reflects how well they're doing. THEY are: Shareholders/dividend clippers, Capital Gainers, Landlords, CEOs/Hedge-fund management types 'Financialators'....the Wall Street stirrers of monies & their minions the Gamers, Schemers, Scammers . Stop. [Ezra also has a classic use of 'heuristic' - a word that keeps escaping me - alongside 'trust' and David -fuc*king - Brooks. And to believe that not very long ago I really and kinda widely & generically believed in & trusted the NYT; CNN...too. Jeez!, stupid, stoopid me.]" P.S. Anyway here's actual Ezra on heuristic. Liked it. "[All of us]use certain heuristics to help them navigate the media sphere -- chief among them trusting that authors operating out of established media outlets are being basically truthful. Conversely, they can rely on the aggregate disreputation of an outlet -- the reason I don't read or critique the Wall Street Journal editorial page is that most everyone I can reach already knows it's a stew of lies and disinformation." Oooo…quite a change. Assume scabby troll defenses
Post was lost…won’t tell ya where else it got [Offsprung..nice place]
I am so self-absorbed.

“SO, so-ooo torn.

And not that any of my ’strange bubblings-up’ are two-blog-worthy but
maybe some will actually rise to the boil..somewhere.
Here– from P’gon.

“We have GOT to stop using THEIR ‘Economy’ word!

They use it to imply that there IS a common extant & actual
framework for how well one is doing.
[In the day there might actually…have been.]
Their GDP doesn’t reflect shit about how I’m doing.
It reflects how well they’re doing.

THEY are:
Shareholders/dividend clippers,
Capital Gainers,
Landlords,
CEOs/Hedge-fund management types
‘Financialators’….the Wall Street stirrers of monies & their minions
the Gamers, Schemers, Scammers .

Stop.

[Ezra also has a classic use of ‘heuristic’ - a word that keeps escaping me -
alongside ‘trust’ and David -fuc*king - Brooks.
And to believe that not very long ago I really and kinda widely & generically
believed in & trusted the NYT; CNN…too. Jeez!, stupid, stoopid me.]”

P.S. Anyway here’s actual Ezra on heuristic. Liked it.
“[All of us]use certain heuristics to help them navigate the media sphere —
chief among them trusting that authors operating out of established media outlets are being basically truthful.
Conversely, they can rely on the aggregate disreputation of an outlet —
the reason I don’t read or critique the Wall Street Journal editorial page is that most everyone I can reach already knows it’s a stew of lies and disinformation.”

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435575 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:26:23 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435575 <i>"Actually, I was thinking about it, and I’m pretty sure that billionaires aren’t kosher all by themselves."</i> Have you seen the bigger piggies In their starched white shirts You will find the bigger piggies Stirring up the dirt Always have clean shirts to play around in. - George Harrison ... “Actually, I was thinking about it, and I’m pretty sure that billionaires aren’t kosher all by themselves.”

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.
- George Harrison

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]]> by: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Really Good Bananas Foster http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435573 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:02:24 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435573 MAJeff: <blockquote>Do you want it religiously ok, or do you want it to taste good?</blockquote> Actually, I was thinking about it, and I'm pretty sure that billionaires aren't kosher all by themselves. So there's really no need to invoke the "no mixing meat and dairy" provision at all. MAJeff:

Do you want it religiously ok, or do you want it to taste good?

Actually, I was thinking about it, and I’m pretty sure that billionaires aren’t kosher all by themselves. So there’s really no need to invoke the “no mixing meat and dairy” provision at all.

]]> by: JohnL http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435562 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:52:57 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435562 You see this attitude all the time. Here's one case that I looked at on my site: Tweeter Etc. was doing badly and decided to close a bunch of its stores, but since they weren't going to close them right away they needed people to stay to close the stores. To get people to stay, they promised to give bonuses. After the stores did close, Tweeter declared chapter 11 bankruptcy and reneged on the bonuses. They did relent a bit and agreed to compensate the employees for unused vacation and sick days, but when it came to the bonus the firm noted: 'workers can file a claim to the court as creditors to try to recover some severance pay.' Ok, not very nice, still they were bankrupt--they'd pay them if they could right? Later Tweeter was bought out. During the negotiations, Tweeter tried to get bonuses for the top executives. Why? 'In its filing, Tweeter said its executives and officers have shouldered more responsibility and worked more hours since the Chapter 11 filing. The bonus plan, it said, "is designed to reward those employees that have (been) and will continue to be most critical and bear substantial burdens" in restructuring the company.' You can see that the executives believe that they are more deserving of a bonus than the employees. The employees that stayed to close the stores helped Tweeter a lot, but obviously they aren't as important as the execs. It's just the mindset of a lot of these people--if they're doing well than the economy is because they're the important ones. You see this attitude all the time. Here’s one case that I looked at on my site:
Tweeter Etc. was doing badly and decided to close a bunch of its stores, but since they weren’t going to close them right away they needed people to stay to close the stores. To get people to stay, they promised to give bonuses. After the stores did close, Tweeter declared chapter 11 bankruptcy and reneged on the bonuses. They did relent a bit and agreed to compensate the employees for unused vacation and sick days, but when it came to the bonus the firm noted:
‘workers can file a claim to the court as creditors to try to recover some severance pay.’
Ok, not very nice, still they were bankrupt–they’d pay them if they could right? Later Tweeter was bought out. During the negotiations, Tweeter tried to get bonuses for the top executives. Why?
‘In its filing, Tweeter said its executives and officers have shouldered more responsibility and worked more hours since the Chapter 11 filing.
The bonus plan, it said, “is designed to reward those employees that have (been) and will continue to be most critical and bear substantial burdens” in restructuring the company.’
You can see that the executives believe that they are more deserving of a bonus than the employees. The employees that stayed to close the stores helped Tweeter a lot, but obviously they aren’t as important as the execs. It’s just the mindset of a lot of these people–if they’re doing well than the economy is because they’re the important ones.

]]> by: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435537 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:53:47 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435537 <blockquote>Too bad that’s not kosher. Not that I keep kosher. Just sayin’, is </blockquote> Do you want it religiously ok, or do you want it to taste good? Those bourgeois bodies get some nast things built up in them, and you've gotta get rid of the funkiness somehow.

Too bad that’s not kosher.

Not that I keep kosher. Just sayin’, is

Do you want it religiously ok, or do you want it to taste good?

Those bourgeois bodies get some nast things built up in them, and you’ve gotta get rid of the funkiness somehow.

]]> by: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Really Good Bananas Foster http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435536 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:51:38 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435536 MAJeff: <blockquote>Soak ‘em in milk first, to get rid of that “off� smell and aftertaste. Lots of cumin helps, too.</blockquote> Too bad that's not kosher. Not that I keep kosher. Just sayin', is all. MAJeff:

Soak ‘em in milk first, to get rid of that “off� smell and aftertaste. Lots of cumin helps, too.

Too bad that’s not kosher.

Not that I keep kosher. Just sayin’, is all.

]]> by: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435531 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:34:06 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435531 <blockquote>Anybody know a good recipe for roasted billionaire?</blockquote> Soak 'em in milk first, to get rid of that "off" smell and aftertaste. Lots of cumin helps, too.

Anybody know a good recipe for roasted billionaire?

Soak ‘em in milk first, to get rid of that “off” smell and aftertaste. Lots of cumin helps, too.

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435484 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:55:47 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435484 I wonder when the Rethugs will just come out and admit all they want is cheap servants. If they pass laws to mandate your clothing color/style so as to mark your position in society, that would be the icing on the cake... I wonder when the Rethugs will just come out and admit all they want is cheap servants.

If they pass laws to mandate your clothing color/style so as to mark your position in society, that would be the icing on the cake…

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435519 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:00:07 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435519 <i>"Anybody know a good recipe for roasted billionaire?"</i> Believe in all the good things That money just can't buy Then you won't get no bellyache From eatin' humble pie I believe in rags to riches Your inheritance won't last So take your Grey Poupon my friend And shove it up your ass Eat The Rich There's only one thing that they are good for Eat The Rich Take one bite now - come back for more Eat The Rich I gotta get this off my chest Eat The Rich Take one bite now - spit out the rest - Aerosmith ... “Anybody know a good recipe for roasted billionaire?”

Believe in all the good things
That money just can’t buy
Then you won’t get no bellyache
From eatin’ humble pie
I believe in rags to riches
Your inheritance won’t last
So take your Grey Poupon my friend
And shove it up your ass

Eat The Rich
There’s only one thing that they are good for
Eat The Rich
Take one bite now - come back for more
Eat The Rich
I gotta get this off my chest
Eat The Rich
Take one bite now - spit out the rest
- Aerosmith

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]]> by: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435515 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:35:19 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/24/the-real-face-of-class-warfare-bobo-edition/#comment-435515 Bunnies!!!!!! (please) Bunnies!!!!!! (please)

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