Comments on: Condoms get you pregnant and other “facts” from the Wingnutteria http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:04:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Maronan http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-431890 Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:11:27 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-431890 Hm. I'm a lion, and as such, I'm struck by a sexist message in the pictures that may have gone unnoticed by the humans at Pandagon. The lioness in the first (single) picture is slim and cute, while the lioness in the second (married) picture is clearly fat and probably pregnant. I guess that she's been "ruined" now and he should walk away? The bitch got pregnant and now she's making it hard for him to leave? Something like that? Hm. I’m a lion, and as such, I’m struck by a sexist message in the pictures that may have gone unnoticed by the humans at Pandagon. The lioness in the first (single) picture is slim and cute, while the lioness in the second (married) picture is clearly fat and probably pregnant. I guess that she’s been “ruined” now and he should walk away? The bitch got pregnant and now she’s making it hard for him to leave? Something like that?

]]> by: George Arndt http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-430016 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:16:02 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-430016 If Abstinence only is so great, why do most European countries, with a more liberal attitude toward sexuality and few if any Abstinence only education, have much lower rates of teen pregnancy and abortion than the US does? Also, how is an Abstinence only education going to stop a 15 year old girl from being taken advantage of? It should also be noted that poor people, regardless of the country they're in, tend to have more babies. And with fewer economic opportunities, they are more likely to end up in prison or on welfare. And, of course, those on the right are against welfare for the poor. Apparently they want the poor to have more babies with less government money to pay for them. Apparently they want us to go back to days of Dickens.. Birth control, it should be noted, costs much less than sending more people to jail are have them be on welfare. If Abstinence only is so great, why do most European countries, with a more liberal attitude toward sexuality and few if any Abstinence only education, have much lower rates of teen pregnancy and abortion than the US does?

Also, how is an Abstinence only education going to stop a 15 year old girl from being taken advantage of?

It should also be noted that poor people, regardless of the country they’re in, tend to have more babies. And with fewer economic opportunities, they are more likely to end up in prison or on welfare. And, of course, those on the right are against welfare for the poor. Apparently they want the poor to have more babies with less government money to pay for them. Apparently they want us to go back to days of Dickens..

Birth control, it should be noted, costs much less than sending more people to jail are have them be on welfare.

]]> by: Ellie http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429617 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:02:58 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429617 It's interesting that the US government's position seems to be to encourage pregnancy - at least, that was the impression I got from reading this. I live in the UK, and started taking the Pill a few months ago. When I saw my doctor about it, I asked about the various other methods, such as contraceptive injections and implants, that prevent pregnancy over a longer period of time (the former lasts 8-12 weeks, the latter lasts 3 years). She told me that the government encourages the use of longer term methods such as these, and encourages doctors to prescribe them when possible. This is especially the case in poorer, worse educated areas, where the assumption appears to be that women won't remember to take a Pill or won't use contraception correctly. By essentially making them sterile for up to three years, the government is then able to bring down our astronomically high teen pregnancy rate - I think one of the highest, if not the highest, in Western Europe. It certainly seems to show that they have no faith in abstinence only sex education. I have to say this was the first time I'd considered just how much of a role the government's agenda can play in the well being of an individual. It’s interesting that the US government’s position seems to be to encourage pregnancy - at least, that was the impression I got from reading this. I live in the UK, and started taking the Pill a few months ago. When I saw my doctor about it, I asked about the various other methods, such as contraceptive injections and implants, that prevent pregnancy over a longer period of time (the former lasts 8-12 weeks, the latter lasts 3 years). She told me that the government encourages the use of longer term methods such as these, and encourages doctors to prescribe them when possible. This is especially the case in poorer, worse educated areas, where the assumption appears to be that women won’t remember to take a Pill or won’t use contraception correctly. By essentially making them sterile for up to three years, the government is then able to bring down our astronomically high teen pregnancy rate - I think one of the highest, if not the highest, in Western Europe. It certainly seems to show that they have no faith in abstinence only sex education. I have to say this was the first time I’d considered just how much of a role the government’s agenda can play in the well being of an individual.

]]> by: billanastas.com » Gimme Shelter http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429549 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:37:38 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429549 [...] Condoms get you pregnant and other “factsâ€? from the Wingnutteria [...] […] Condoms get you pregnant and other “factsâ€? from the Wingnutteria […]

]]> by: Ouchi http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429362 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:54:23 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429362 Sex without marriage is bad for women; sex without marriage is bad for women; sex without marriage is bad for women Marriage is bad for men .. WHAT?? Interesting how she goes on the topic that would appear that marriage is the most important thing, and then has a show of lions like that demoting marriage (Well for the male anyways). . These people have the worst skewed logic I have ever seen! Sex without marriage is bad for women; sex without marriage is bad for women; sex without marriage is bad for women
Marriage is bad for men ..

WHAT??

Interesting how she goes on the topic that would appear that marriage is the most important thing, and then has a show of lions like that demoting marriage (Well for the male anyways). . These people have the worst skewed logic I have ever seen!

]]> by: Andrew http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429353 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:34:22 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429353 <i>Sorry, Ms. Marcotte - as someone who never has and never will have any first-hand experience as a married male, you cannot comprehend the accuracy of the “lion� photos you’ve published. It happens more often than you’d like to admit.</i> Damn you gays and feminists, with your marriage-pushing agenda! Sorry, Ms. Marcotte - as someone who never has and never will have any first-hand experience as a married male, you cannot comprehend the accuracy of the “lion� photos you’ve published. It happens more often than you’d like to admit.

Damn you gays and feminists, with your marriage-pushing agenda!

]]> by: JackGoff, Droll Jester of Tomatoey Goodness http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429351 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:32:14 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429351 <i>Hey, I am a Christian and I do belive its good to teach abstinence, however I also have an IQ over the two digit mark and believe contraception is something we need.</i> Then this isn't about you. It's about "abstinence-only education" and the witless panty-sniffers who believe in it. Hey, I am a Christian and I do belive its good to teach abstinence, however I also have an IQ over the two digit mark and believe contraception is something we need.

Then this isn’t about you. It’s about “abstinence-only education” and the witless panty-sniffers who believe in it.

]]> by: Bonnie, Priestess of All Things Grilled (Among Other Delectables) http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429333 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:56:53 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429333 Funny thing about male lions - given the opportunity, they kill the cubs. All of them. Funny thing about male lions - given the opportunity, they kill the cubs. All of them.

]]> by: ahunt http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429314 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:15:29 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429314 Last time I checked, parents have the right to opt their children out of public school sex ed programs in every state of our union. Someone should tell Jennifer. Last time I checked, parents have the right to opt their children out of public school sex ed programs in every state of our union.

Someone should tell Jennifer.

]]> by: Sara Pulis http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429298 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:13:25 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/07/09/condoms-get-you-pregnant-and-other-facts-from-the-wingnutteria/#comment-429298 Now, now, Ms. Morse has a valid point! This kind of stance can have an impact in other fields, such as weight management, as well! The people over at Weight Watchers are controlling our schools' health information, and they're getting fatter. In fact, weight management information has increased in schools over the decades while our kids are ballooning! The only way to battle this epidemic is to not eat at all. When you never eat, you have a 0% chance of gaining weight. IT WORKS EVERY TIME! Now, now, Ms. Morse has a valid point! This kind of stance can have an impact in other fields, such as weight management, as well! The people over at Weight Watchers are controlling our schools’ health information, and they’re getting fatter. In fact, weight management information has increased in schools over the decades while our kids are ballooning! The only way to battle this epidemic is to not eat at all. When you never eat, you have a 0% chance of gaining weight. IT WORKS EVERY TIME!

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