Posted by Helen H June 20, 2007 in Asides
Stab victim ‘continued masturbating’
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(The story itself is extremely disturbing, though.)
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Upon first seeing the headline, I was wondering if it’s like chickens flopping around after you cut off their heads.
Y’know, I very very rarely find violence to be an appropriate response, but isn’t masturbating in front of a child a crime? I know the kid wasn’t in any imminent danger or anything, but I can see why the mother would want to use extreme means to stop the man. I guess it’s not quite self-defense, but it’s on that spectrum.
I nominate this for best quote EVER:
“He was in and out and round about, doing this sort of thing all over the house, ” Mr Johnson said.
LOL what a rhyme!
There’s some kind of phallic irony here . . .
Now dear, mommy just knifed him to protect you from seeing THAT!
Sigh. After that rhyme/prose why do I suddenly see a leering “cat in the hat” in a trenchcoat ?
Indeed there is a Dr. Suess quality to it — which I could expand on, but then I would have to be shot and then banned, and then replaced with Bunnnies being shot and banned…
[…] Posted by Matt Zeitlin on June 20th, 2007 Via Auguste, we have can what only be described as a great headline that is only matched by an equally crazy/disturbing story. Again, kids, don’t do meth.  Here’s the headline: Stab victim ‘continued masturbating’ […]
Dr,Confused, I tend to agree. I can’t swear I wouldn’t do the same thing as the woman did, possibly even aiming my knifework even lower than she did.
And I’m a pacifist, so you know how squicked out I am by this story.
Why not remove the child from the vicinity/viewing area and then call the police? Stabbing is a bit on the extreme side, which makes me wonder if she was on something as well.
Thanks to the knife, this guy got off. (sorry)
As for a Dr. Seuss version:
It was late in the home, it was too late to play,
So I tried to bathe Daughter on that fateful day.
I looked up from the tub and I saw quite a sight,
A tweaker was choking his chicken with might!
I laughed when I saw it, must confess I did,
But my daughter said, “Look! It’s that thing! And un-hid!”
I now knew my parenting style was at test.
So I reached for a knife, thinking that was the best
Way to deal with a man masturbating in sight.
What else could I do? Could I turn off the light?
I said, “Leave your manhood alone, else I might cut!”
But he grinned, and he grimaced, and showed me his butt!
And I knew what to do, right in sight of my child.
I decided to cut this manipulator-gone-wild!
So I cut him, and cut him, but to no avail.
He merely continued, after emitting a wail.
So this bleeding man kept up his fearsome attack,
For his penis, I suppose, just needed the jack!
I was grateful he left, and dear Daughter was, too?
For what would you do, tell me What would you do?
Masturbating in front of the children: only pedophiles do that.
I dunno, if my roommate who was hopped up on amphetamines was running around the house masturbating, I’d probably stab him in the arm, too. How do you know what he’s going to do next?
Geesh, whatever happened to a lapful of icecubes and water?
Mnemosyne,
That’s exactly why I wouldn’t introduce a knife into the equation. A hopped up guy out of his mind should not have a knife brought into his vicinity unless you are going to try to kill him with it (and are confident you will do so.) Based on the story, she probably wasn’t trying to kill him with it.
I think stabbing was a mild response, considering she had children right there in the house and the “wanker” wouldn’t stop. Then again, I was a machine gunner in the army, so my methods are a bit more final…
Eight-year-olds, dude.jon, I love your work
Honestly, I don’t feel terribly sorry for the guy. Sounds he was really taunting her with it and gloating over the fact that her daughter was there and that the mother couldn’t stop him (or so he thought, maybe). For all she knew, he might have escalated to approaching her daughter and making physical contact with her, especially if it was his goal to harass and upset her mother.
In (sort of) good news here in Australia - the boys involved in raping, urinating on and filming a mentally disabled teenaged girl in Werribee have also been charged with making child pornography, as well as the sexual assault. It’s a highly disturbing case and I hope they get the maximum sentence. I vaguely recall Pandagon covered it, about 6 - 12 months ago?
It has some similarities to rape cases in America where the rapists filmed the crime - I hope that the DVD is taken as the damning evidence it is this time.
Apologies for the link format, I couldn’t get the HTML to take.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/werribee-dvd-suspects-in-court/2007/06/18/1182018994038.html
I think I disagree. It would depend on whether he actually posed a plausible risk to the child, of course, and I have no real way to guess. But on the face of it, he didn’t use or threaten violence. (I can’t tell from the story if the druggie even knew he was masturbating.) I admit, the mother knew the guy and may’ve had a clearer view of the situation.
seems to me he wasn’t a pedophile. I wasn’t masturbating “at” the children, he was just doing it so obsessively (presumably because of the drugs)that he didn’t care if they saw him or not… or if he got stabbed or not.
oops! URGENT CORRECTION: *He* wasn’t masturbating “at” the kids. Oh my.
mckinley, my dark sense of humor wishes your urgent correction had gotten caught in moderation
I’m with the mother on this one. She asked him repeatedly to leave, he refused. She asked him to stop, he refused.
In my neck of the woods he would have been shot and drugged out back and planted. I’ve got no issue with my children seeing ‘teh penis’ but I’ve got a HUGE issue with a drug crazed idiot jerking off in the direction of my naked (bath time) underaged daughter. I would be terrified that his next action would be molestation or rape.
I think the judge handled the situation well, minimum sentence with immediate parole for the mother who was protecting her child.
Situations like this one, where defense is needed, but true violence is not quite appropriate, are why I teach the art of the frog-march when I teach self-defense (in addition to the more violent responses). I doubt the mother would have resorted to stabbing if she had felt capable of simply removing him from the apartment.
Plus, what jon said. Adding a knife while dealing with a recalcitrant druggie is not a good idea.
Oh my dear spin cycle, I moved to the sunshine state to get away from all the wankers…
Thanks for the update, Funky Cthulu. Haven’t heard much Vic news since I wandered north. But gosh, it’s taken a year to get to court?
She got nine months in jail? I see that as an awfully long time - and to boot, she will be separated all that time from the daughter she tried to protect. And, he didn’t get charged at all for his lewd crime. I can just imagine all the lessons in patriarchal dominance that her daughter is going to learn from this.
In my neck of the woods, men don’t get put in jail that long for beating and choking women to near death. If convicted of murdering said women, their actual time served could be 2 years or less.
Compare.
Hi kim and all,
No problem - I’ll be following the case with interest. I hadn’t really heard much more about it till now really. 12 months does seem a long time but hopefully they were using that time to build a really solid case and get all the facts straight so the trial can go smoothly.
Margaret, she got 9 months but was released on parole immediately, so it seems like she’ll be able to go back to caring for her daughter. The judge seemed sympathetic to her in the article :
Senior Judge Gilbert Trafford Walker accepted the Crown’s submission that Wilson had been subjected to “grossly offensive conduct … which in a moral sense amounts to extreme provocation.”
If she asked him to leave, doesn’t trespass and associated defenses come into play (dunno what the law is like in Oz about this, though)?
I suspect the law is that the police should be called to remove trespassers if they refuse to go - they don’t want people taking it into their own hands, so to speak, unless they are being threatened with immediate physical injury and thus need to defend themselves. Aggressively wanking AT someone, offensive as it is, is probably not viewed as a threat.
I would normally agree that stabbing someone who just refuses to leave or desist from their behaviour is not acceptable, but from what was reported I can imagine the overt sexual behaviour, with her child present, would seem very threatening in the context.
And if I had a man in my house who behaved that way and refused to stop - yes, I think I would feel afraid or at the least highly nervous and grossed out.
I don’t know what’s so disturbing about him not stopping. Some people are simply determined to finish what they start. I admire his stick-to-it attitude. That’s a man who will go places, a man who is prepared to do whatever it takes to get the job done. Yeah, I’d hire that guy to work for me; he won’t give up until he’s met his goals.
Of course, I’d have to give him a private office with a lock on the outside.
The thing about introducing a knife into the situation is (at least it’s like that in Arizona) that deadly force (and a knife certainly counts as such) can only be used in self defense when you must do so. In this case, deadly force was not appropriate. Having a knife handy certainly was, but using it wasn’t. That having been said, I agree with the sentence and the punishment.
Too bad our court system is filled with those gosh darn liberal felon-coddling judges so our tough-on-crime legislatures had to take sentencing power away from them. In today’s US, the woman would probably have to serve a mandatory minimum of two years. Aren’t we glad we’re so tough on crime we’ve taken away the power of judges to, you know, judge?
I totally picture Keith Moon.
Well, I have to say, this guy is the most dedicated wanker in the history of wanking.
That out of the way, without having been there, i’m loathe to offer an opinion on whether or not a knife was appropriate. If Sir Wanksalot was running through the place, frothing at the mouth (and other places), choking the chicken at warp speed, I have to say, I’d be freaked out enough to look for a sharp object. But I couldn’t say otherwise.
Been the monkey house at the zoo recently?
From the sounds of it, the dude didn’t really know what he was doing. I don’t really blame the woman for losing it, but the guy needs help to get off amphetamines, not a stab wound. And I think the poor kid in the situation is propably going to be a LOT MORE traumatized by mommy stabbing some guy than by a dude jacking off. Still, can’t really condemn someone for freaking out over something so clearly freakout-worthy.
Well, I have to say, this guy is the most dedicated wanker in the history of wanking.
AND
From the sounds of it, the dude didn’t really know what he was doing.
I forsee a brilliant career as an American political pundit ahead of him…
I’d say that the guy’s lucky he got the knife in his shoulder.
What a crazy story. I wonder if she had considered stabbing him in the right arm, instead? That may have stopped it.