Comments on: Southern Baptist leader: educated women are ‘threatening the family’ http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: bob dole http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-485857 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:38:44 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-485857 This man is right. Women need not be in the drivers, but the passenger seat, like God intended. The world was built by men. Women's minds are often too simple to comprehend reason and the will of God. This man is right. Women need not be in the drivers, but the passenger seat, like God intended. The world was built by men. Women’s minds are often too simple to comprehend reason and the will of God.

]]> by: I'm sick of your insane demands. http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-440646 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:50:27 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-440646 <strong>Nothing Surprises Me Anymore</strong> Not even this: Seminary To Offer Women A Degree in Homemaking. Southwestern Baptist, one of the nation's largest Southern Baptist seminaries, is introducinga new academic program in homemaking as part of an effort to establish what its president calls... Nothing Surprises Me Anymore

Not even this: Seminary To Offer Women A Degree in Homemaking. Southwestern Baptist, one of the nation’s largest Southern Baptist seminaries, is introducinga new academic program in homemaking as part of an effort to establish what its president calls…

]]> by: greensmile http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-408063 Tue, 22 May 2007 16:35:18 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-408063 shorter Patterson: "educated women are a threat to the power of the Southern Baptist church...at the polls, in the pews, in the maternity wards and at the collection plate" Let them dress it up any way they want, use any language they can pronounce. These fundie churches are major stakeholders in american ignorance...it is their chief enabler. shorter Patterson: “educated women are a threat to the power of the Southern Baptist church…at the polls, in the pews, in the maternity wards and at the collection plate”

Let them dress it up any way they want, use any language they can pronounce. These fundie churches are major stakeholders in american ignorance…it is their chief enabler.

]]> by: gaia http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406291 Fri, 18 May 2007 00:32:02 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406291 "As a result, she was removed from her post, and her then ex-husband (who later married the other woman) suffered no ill effects at all. I believe they even moved him to a bigger church and let his new wife co-pastor." Not disagreeing with any of the basic premise here - but this could not possibly be southern baptist. The SBC does not move preachers - each church in the convention has full autonomy to hire preachers and other staff. I still remember the first time I heard of a preacher being "forced" on a church - it was my friend's methodist church and I couldn't imagine anything so oppressive, the NERVE of some faceless organization deciding they knew who would be the best leader for a local church. The other thing is that there is no way in hell a southern baptist church is going to have a woman as a "co-pastor". Women are not allowed to hold positions of power in the church. Some churches won't even allow women to teach boys/men sunday school classes. Gaia - a deacon's kid. “As a result, she was removed from her post, and her then ex-husband (who later married the other woman) suffered no ill effects at all. I believe they even moved him to a bigger church and let his new wife co-pastor.”

Not disagreeing with any of the basic premise here - but this could not possibly be southern baptist. The SBC does not move preachers - each church in the convention has full autonomy to hire preachers and other staff. I still remember the first time I heard of a preacher being “forced” on a church - it was my friend’s methodist church and I couldn’t imagine anything so oppressive, the NERVE of some faceless organization deciding they knew who would be the best leader for a local church.

The other thing is that there is no way in hell a southern baptist church is going to have a woman as a “co-pastor”. Women are not allowed to hold positions of power in the church. Some churches won’t even allow women to teach boys/men sunday school classes.

Gaia - a deacon’s kid.

]]> by: wayward http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406193 Thu, 17 May 2007 21:01:05 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406193 <blockquote> Well, it’s a start, anyway. Overall, women make better students than males - I think higher education is wasted on most men. </blockquote> This is because teenage girls are a hell of a lot more mature than their male counterparts at the same age. For all the ink that has been spilled about how girls perform relative to boys in math and science, in verbal and writing skills, it's not even close. The average male high school senior has roughly the same verbal and writing skills as the average female high school freshman (freshwoman?)

Well, it’s a start, anyway. Overall, women make better students than males - I think higher education is wasted on most men.

This is because teenage girls are a hell of a lot more mature than their male counterparts at the same age.

For all the ink that has been spilled about how girls perform relative to boys in math and science, in verbal and writing skills, it’s not even close. The average male high school senior has roughly the same verbal and writing skills as the average female high school freshman (freshwoman?)

]]> by: wayward http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406190 Thu, 17 May 2007 20:57:50 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406190 <blockquote> Therefore, what the Southern Baptists should do is support Title 9, thereby enouraging women to spend more time on sports as well. Then all of them will be equally unprepared for college with less than stellar grades and SAT’s. Yeah for equality! </blockquote> As an added bonus, participating in sports is the one activity that is most likely to delay sexual activity in teenage girls, much more so than involvement in anything religious. I'm too lazy to cite this myself, but I'm sure you can google it.

Therefore, what the Southern Baptists should do is support Title 9, thereby enouraging women to spend more time on sports as well. Then all of them will be equally unprepared for college with less than stellar grades and SAT’s. Yeah for equality!

As an added bonus, participating in sports is the one activity that is most likely to delay sexual activity in teenage girls, much more so than involvement in anything religious.

I’m too lazy to cite this myself, but I’m sure you can google it.

]]> by: preying mantis http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406184 Thu, 17 May 2007 20:50:44 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406184 "And he has a point about the feminization of the business world." That point being? “And he has a point about the feminization of the business world.”

That point being?

]]> by: Livia http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406085 Thu, 17 May 2007 17:30:03 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-406085 men will be increasingly underrepresented among “the intelligentsia� and will gradually cede leadership in many areas to women. Cool. men will be increasingly underrepresented among “the intelligentsia� and will gradually cede leadership in many areas to women.

Cool.

]]> by: bmc90 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-405932 Thu, 17 May 2007 15:24:08 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-405932 I wonder if he objected to women going out to milk the cows, slop the pigs, and feed the chickens? Hint hint. In a post-agrarian society, most household members have to do something to put groceries on the table and that something is known as work for wages. Considering the massive shift away from agriculture has taken place in the last 100 years only, it is hoot to fret about women "suddenly" and mysteriously popping up in the workforce in the 70's. Women have always been in the workforce, just a few steps behind men temporally, only it used to be that the farm = factory = office. Women have worked for such wages as they could in the face of discrimination and the massive amount of unpaid labor they are expected to do. Since giving birth or having a vagina in and of itself does not entitle one to vouchers for housing, clothes and food, I really DO NOT understand the hand wringing over women working. I wonder if he objected to women going out to milk the cows, slop the pigs, and feed the chickens? Hint hint. In a post-agrarian society, most household members have to do something to put groceries on the table and that something is known as work for wages. Considering the massive shift away from agriculture has taken place in the last 100 years only, it is hoot to fret about women “suddenly” and mysteriously popping up in the workforce in the 70’s. Women have always been in the workforce, just a few steps behind men temporally, only it used to be that the farm = factory = office. Women have worked for such wages as they could in the face of discrimination and the massive amount of unpaid labor they are expected to do. Since giving birth or having a vagina in and of itself does not entitle one to vouchers for housing, clothes and food, I really DO NOT understand the hand wringing over women working.

]]> by: Mercurial Georgia http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-405925 Thu, 17 May 2007 15:16:37 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/16/southern-baptist-leader-educated-women-are-threatening-the-family/#comment-405925 CCD are like the typical 'teeniegothies', they have the issues, they have the /crosses/, they are doing BDSM things without understanding it or including the Safe Sane Consensual. CCD are like the typical ‘teeniegothies’, they have the issues, they have the /crosses/, they are doing BDSM things without understanding it or including the Safe Sane Consensual.

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