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		<title>by: Villainous Company</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-402865</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 09:10:38 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ethical Failure and Opportunism At The World Bank...&lt;/strong&gt;

One of the more distressing tasks that falls to conservative bloggers is the defense of beleaguered administration officials accused of offenses running the gamut from public beastiality to jaywalking. The incoming Democratic Congress promised oversigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>Ethical Failure and Opportunism At The World Bank&#8230;</strong></p>
	<p>One of the more distressing tasks that falls to conservative bloggers is the defense of beleaguered administration officials accused of offenses running the gamut from public beastiality to jaywalking. The incoming Democratic Congress promised oversigh&#8230;
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		<title>by: SouthernBelle</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-400563</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 09:17:09 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-400563</guid>
					<description>Junk Science, so now I am unreasonable and stupid.  End of conversation. . . you won.  Yay for you.  I guess I should just keep my stupid mouth shut.

I didn't think I would change anyone's mind.  I just thought my opinion, as a woman who has an abortion story and an adoption story spanning two generations, might be interesting and relevant to the discussion.  

All you smart people enjoy the rest of your discourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Junk Science, so now I am unreasonable and stupid.  End of conversation. . . you won.  Yay for you.  I guess I should just keep my stupid mouth shut.</p>
	<p>I didn&#8217;t think I would change anyone&#8217;s mind.  I just thought my opinion, as a woman who has an abortion story and an adoption story spanning two generations, might be interesting and relevant to the discussion.  </p>
	<p>All you smart people enjoy the rest of your discourse.
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		<title>by: junk science</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-400108</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 19:23:00 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-400108</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;I was adamantly pro-abortion, even had the â€œAGAINST ABORTION. THEN DONâ€™T HAVE ONEâ€? bumper sticker on my car. Time and life experience brought about a change of heart.&lt;/i&gt;

So you used to be a reasonable person, and now you're not? A shame. I hope everyone can learn from you that age is a poor indicator of relative stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I was adamantly pro-abortion, even had the â€œAGAINST ABORTION. THEN DONâ€™T HAVE ONEâ€? bumper sticker on my car. Time and life experience brought about a change of heart.</i></p>
	<p>So you used to be a reasonable person, and now you&#8217;re not? A shame. I hope everyone can learn from you that age is a poor indicator of relative stupidity.
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		<title>by: philosophizer</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399823</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 17:14:17 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399823</guid>
					<description>sure, it never hurts to be prepared for all possible outcomes, no matter how unlikely.

i will also add that 30 years later, my mother still does not regret her abortion either.  y'know, since personal experiences are now general truths and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>sure, it never hurts to be prepared for all possible outcomes, no matter how unlikely.</p>
	<p>i will also add that 30 years later, my mother still does not regret her abortion either.  y&#8217;know, since personal experiences are now general truths and all.
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		<title>by: SouthernBelle</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399662</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 12:49:14 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399662</guid>
					<description>caarthur, 
Flagellation. . . huh?  What is your point exactly?


philosopher,I was just recounting my journey from where I was 20 years ago to where I am now.  I was adamantly pro-abortion, even had the &quot;AGAINST ABORTION. THEN DON'T HAVE ONE&quot; bumper sticker on my car.  Time and life experience brought about a change of heart.  &quot;Thankful relief&quot; may one day turn into a different emotion.  Be prepared. . . it might happen to you too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>caarthur,<br />
Flagellation. . . huh?  What is your point exactly?</p>
	<p>philosopher,I was just recounting my journey from where I was 20 years ago to where I am now.  I was adamantly pro-abortion, even had the &#8220;AGAINST ABORTION. THEN DON&#8217;T HAVE ONE&#8221; bumper sticker on my car.  Time and life experience brought about a change of heart.  &#8220;Thankful relief&#8221; may one day turn into a different emotion.  Be prepared. . . it might happen to you too.
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		<title>by: grace</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399482</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 22:28:38 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399482</guid>
					<description>I usually just lurk, but I needed to share my story, because it isn't the norm. 

I had an abortion 4 years ago when I was 33 years old, happily married, and financially stable. It was a few years after I had ended fertility treatments that had been unsuccessful , and I thought I was infertile. In fact, we had just adopted a beautiful baby girl.  Due to my fertility problems, and lack of regular periods, I didn't find out I was pregant until my fifth month. I only found out because I went to the doctor concerned that my breasts were changing. Neither my doctor or I had any idea I was pregnant- after all, I was supposedly infertile- until I had an unrelated urine test. 

So, here I am, five months pregnant, coping with the challenges of a brand new baby. I was hysterical. I didn't feel I could cope with 2 babies so close in age. I didn't want to be pregnant then. I was furious that after all the fertility treatment, I couldn't get pregnant, but when I didn't want to be pregnant, I was. Also, a five month pregnancy without symptoms? What the hell was that all about? The sonogram didn't show anything wrong with the fetus, but I had a bad feeling about it. I had drank, taken loads of fetus-harming medicine, sat in the hot-tub, etc. during those five months. And I had been on a diet and actually lost weight. I knew I didn't want to parent a baby with severe disabilities. I was terrified. 

I had an abortion- a late second trimester abortion. For reasons that some people would consider horribly selfish, considering the late stage of the pregnancy. Even some people that are okay with abortion would find that late an abortion unacceptable. I made it in just under the wire- a few more weeks, and it would have been illegal to abort. But that's when I found out I was pregnant. 

The trolls (and maybe even some regulars) are probably shaking their heads and calling me a selfish slut. But you know what? I am a really moral, loving person. My husband and I, however, knew that if I were to give birth to this baby, we would not be able to do a good job of raising two children so close in age, one with possible disabilities. I know, I know, women do that all the time- twins, for example- but we just knew it would be too hard for us. If that makes me immoral, so be it. 

My parents, sister, and even two friends were so unsupportive of my decision that it has caused me great pain. But even with that, I do not regret my decision for one minute. I regret getting pregnant, I regret having a symptomless pregnancy that caused me not to find out until my fifth month, and I regret telling the unsupportive people. But I do not regret the abortion. Even with such a nearly-formed fetus. I believe that in a very difficult decision, I chose the best solution. That fetus didn't have a brain stem yet, so it couldn't feel pain or loss. My husband, daughter, and I would have suffered, however. It wasn't an easy choice, but it was the right choice. And I will go to the ends of the earth to ensure that all women have the same choice as I did if they are ever in a situation to have to make that choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I usually just lurk, but I needed to share my story, because it isn&#8217;t the norm. </p>
	<p>I had an abortion 4 years ago when I was 33 years old, happily married, and financially stable. It was a few years after I had ended fertility treatments that had been unsuccessful , and I thought I was infertile. In fact, we had just adopted a beautiful baby girl.  Due to my fertility problems, and lack of regular periods, I didn&#8217;t find out I was pregant until my fifth month. I only found out because I went to the doctor concerned that my breasts were changing. Neither my doctor or I had any idea I was pregnant- after all, I was supposedly infertile- until I had an unrelated urine test. </p>
	<p>So, here I am, five months pregnant, coping with the challenges of a brand new baby. I was hysterical. I didn&#8217;t feel I could cope with 2 babies so close in age. I didn&#8217;t want to be pregnant then. I was furious that after all the fertility treatment, I couldn&#8217;t get pregnant, but when I didn&#8217;t want to be pregnant, I was. Also, a five month pregnancy without symptoms? What the hell was that all about? The sonogram didn&#8217;t show anything wrong with the fetus, but I had a bad feeling about it. I had drank, taken loads of fetus-harming medicine, sat in the hot-tub, etc. during those five months. And I had been on a diet and actually lost weight. I knew I didn&#8217;t want to parent a baby with severe disabilities. I was terrified. </p>
	<p>I had an abortion- a late second trimester abortion. For reasons that some people would consider horribly selfish, considering the late stage of the pregnancy. Even some people that are okay with abortion would find that late an abortion unacceptable. I made it in just under the wire- a few more weeks, and it would have been illegal to abort. But that&#8217;s when I found out I was pregnant. </p>
	<p>The trolls (and maybe even some regulars) are probably shaking their heads and calling me a selfish slut. But you know what? I am a really moral, loving person. My husband and I, however, knew that if I were to give birth to this baby, we would not be able to do a good job of raising two children so close in age, one with possible disabilities. I know, I know, women do that all the time- twins, for example- but we just knew it would be too hard for us. If that makes me immoral, so be it. </p>
	<p>My parents, sister, and even two friends were so unsupportive of my decision that it has caused me great pain. But even with that, I do not regret my decision for one minute. I regret getting pregnant, I regret having a symptomless pregnancy that caused me not to find out until my fifth month, and I regret telling the unsupportive people. But I do not regret the abortion. Even with such a nearly-formed fetus. I believe that in a very difficult decision, I chose the best solution. That fetus didn&#8217;t have a brain stem yet, so it couldn&#8217;t feel pain or loss. My husband, daughter, and I would have suffered, however. It wasn&#8217;t an easy choice, but it was the right choice. And I will go to the ends of the earth to ensure that all women have the same choice as I did if they are ever in a situation to have to make that choice.
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		<title>by: philosophizer</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399341</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 16:14:45 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Youâ€™re a sick, hideous sociopathic murderer, and probably a slut as well, so your opinions donâ€™t count. Obviously.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

keen - do I get a badge, or a certificate of some kind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Youâ€™re a sick, hideous sociopathic murderer, and probably a slut as well, so your opinions donâ€™t count. Obviously.</p></blockquote>
	<p>keen - do I get a badge, or a certificate of some kind?
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		<title>by: junk science</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399291</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:49:40 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I remember the day I had my abortion. &lt;/i&gt;

I got mine, so fuck y -- uh, I mean, &quot;please learn from my mistake.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I remember the day I had my abortion. </i></p>
	<p>I got mine, so fuck y &#8212; uh, I mean, &#8220;please learn from my mistake.&#8221;
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		<title>by: junk science</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399278</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:37:06 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;so how does that apply to all the people out there who are like me, and feel thankful relief when they think about their abortion and the child they didnâ€™t have?&lt;/i&gt;

You're a sick, hideous sociopathic murderer, and probably a slut as well, so your opinions don't count. Obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>so how does that apply to all the people out there who are like me, and feel thankful relief when they think about their abortion and the child they didnâ€™t have?</i></p>
	<p>You&#8217;re a sick, hideous sociopathic murderer, and probably a slut as well, so your opinions don&#8217;t count. Obviously.
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		<title>by: Sniper</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/05/01/nine-months-for-a-pound-of-flesh/#comment-399215</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 13:01:21 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Adoption is also a choice, and one that wonâ€™t kill an innocent child. Please think about it.&lt;/i&gt;

Choice for me, but not for thee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Adoption is also a choice, and one that wonâ€™t kill an innocent child. Please think about it.</i></p>
	<p>Choice for me, but not for thee!
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