Some of my more egregious writings, for vetting purposes. If you ask for context you are probably a dirty feminist pinko hippie foulmouth.
…the number of terrible, violent ideas that have come out of the text of the bible must rival if not outnumber those that have come out of the Qu’ran…
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The 9/11 hijackers were pursuing their happiness…
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I’m on the Hugo Chavez Marching Orders Yahoo! Group…
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[Malkin is] fascist scum and an apologist for anti-Constitutional activity.
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…Gold Star Mother Cindy Sheehan: Oh, cry me a river.
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[Bush is] good! He sent the troops to save the people who were getting shot by the bad guys.
Okay, fine. If you really have to have context, it’s after the jump. But promise you’re not Bill Donohue. Swear! Okay.
I am a reader of the Bible. I want to state that up front, so that when I say that the number of terrible, violent ideas that have come out of the text of the bible must rival if not outnumber those that have come out of the Qu’ran, I won’t be accused of some sort of war against Christianity.
All religious texts must be read with context, and as I understand it, the Qu’ran is no different.
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So yes, 9/11 was evil. Obviously, because it involved death and destruction, and those practiced against civilians. But evil is not spontaneously generated. And that, my friends, is a value-neutral statement.
The 9/11 hijackers were pursuing their happiness, and so they did evil. So the question is, what made them think that the destruction that took place on 9/11 was their happiness? Malkin is right, the madrassas and imams were involved. But those seeds needed soil. And as for the kind of thing which prepared that soil - put Moussaoui and the 19 hijackers in the frame of mind to embrace jihad - we don’t need racism, or anti-Islamism, or any other long-disproven ism. We just need to look at history.
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I mean, being a good liberal, I’m on the Hugo Chavez Marching Orders Yahoo! Group, but I never bargained for the suppression of free speech. Still, if that’s what it takes to help spread the international communist conspiracy, I suppose there’s nothing I can do about it.
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[Norbizness calls Malkin] fascist scum and an apologist for anti-Constitutional activity.
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Malkin to Gold Star Mother Cindy Sheehan: Oh, cry me a river.
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[4-year-old-at-the-time] Augustlet: [Bush is] good! He sent the troops to save the people who were getting shot by the bad guys.
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Still…, in 2004:
Cheney said he “probably” used an obscenity in an argument Tuesday on the Senate floor with Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) and added that he had no regrets. “I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it,” Cheney told Neil Cavuto of Fox News. The vice president said, “I think that a lot of my colleagues felt that what I had said badly needed to be said, that it was long overdue.”
Karnack blogging!
This is true no matter the context of its utterance.oh yeah? Wayne and Garth may have a challenge for you, then.
[Malkin is] fascist scum and an apologist for anti-Constitutional activity. NOT!
nope, that context renders that statement utterly false.
You lefties make me laugh. How droll you are. How erudite. Golly gee wilikers.
http://kingston.house.gov/Blog/
will anybody bash Jack Kingston for having LGF ( the staunchest anti-Muslim, anti-Arab,anti-Palestine blog ever ) on his blogroll?
Malkin is fascist scum and an apologist for anti-Constitutional activity.
I guess my professional blogging days are over.
Also, athiests are neat, and shiny-keen, unlike religious people, who often smell somewhat like sour milk, and many of whom show a deep and abiding hatred for women, children, puppies, and rainbows.
I’ll thank myself in future for torpedoing my potential political career early.
An important lesson to be learned here… I jumped over to this website because of the negative publicity that has been placed on it by the media and thought I’d check it out for myself. I work with youth and see a lot of my youth put things on facebook/myspace/blogs that you would not want your child to be saying to anyone! More and more companies are now looking at blogs/myspace in the interview process. Why would you put things on public domain that could jeopardize your future? Certain conversations are meant to be held in small group settings where actual discussion and understanding of what one-another says can go on. The overall tone of this website is very unprofessional. Is that a bad thing? Not really to me, but it obviously is to the media/Edwards/certain groups that have a right to scrutinize public domain. Learn your lesson here. Or dont. Up to you.
I may borrow some of the wingnut um, vocabulary in light of recent events:
EAT IT, COBAGZZ!! BWAHAHAHHAH!1!1!!
Yeah, Auguste. You should’ve added a Powerpoint presentation. That would have made it far more businesslike.
Well, Auguste, that’s all fine: you have acknowledged that you’ve said things that could come back to haunt you, context or not, were you ever to be offered a position such as the one Miss Marcotte got and retained.
And I’m sure that if you looked through my wonderful site, you’d find stuff that, in context or not, wouldn’t work for Republican candidates. Since I’ve got about 1/100th of Pandagon’s readership, maybe it wouldn’t be noticed as quickly, but if a Republican candidate were ever to offer me a job like the one Miss Marcotte took, it would be better for me to decline it. (The same is true of Jeff Goldstein and Patterico and Sister Toldjah and every other conservative blog I read.)
Who knows, maybe I’m completely off base, and what Miss Marcotte has written (I’ve never read Miss McEwan’s blog, so I don’t have an informed opinion about what she has written) on her personal site will never become an issue in the campaign. But if it doesn’t, I’ll be the most surprised man in the Poconos.
Thanks for your completely fresh take on things, Michael! None of us here had ever thought of your argument before, because no one has ever before brought it up in a comment thread. I hope the Pandagon bloggers will give your words all the weight they deserve.
Well, Auguste, that’s all fine: you have acknowledged that you’ve said things that could come back to haunt you, context or not, were you ever to be offered a position such as the one Miss Marcotte got and retained.
Dana, just to drop the veil of irony for a minute, are the fully-contexted quotes potentially embarrassing to a campaign? Because if so, then we get the politics we deserve.
I find it hilarious that things like opinions expressed in a public forum might “come back to haunt you” when we’ve had fucking former Klansmen sitting in Congress.
Um, priorities please ? Here’s a hint: naughty words are not the worst things you can say/do. Obviously the wingut right has different ideas about youthful indiscretions than I do.
private to mds: are you being sarcastic?
Well, YEAH. Ask Henry Hyde, former IL R. Here I am on the penultimate night of being 39 and really looking forward to being old enough to have a youthful indiscretion.
(Henry’s affair happened in his 40s. But it was just a “youthful indiscretion”, so it didn’t affect his political career. The Repugs still welcomed him as a family values kinda guy.)
if you want to see real anti-christian ranting go to LeftAye.com. I grew up in the south around Southern Babtists and I have no idea how someone could go to church on sunday and go about their evil ways on monday.
Auguste asked:
Yes, of course, because someone can always disagree even in context.
We all know the famous posting of Miss Marcotte that has drawn the accusations of being anti-Catholic. Even read in full, and I did read it in full, a whole lot of Catholics would see it as biased; I happen to be one of them, and yes, I vote.
I’m about as conservative a Republican as you’d ever find, but I’m sure that there is no context in which a Republican candidate would like the things I’ve said about illegal immigration or capital punishment; I can’t think of a single Republican actually running for office who would want to defend my statement that we have illegal immigration because we want illegal immigration, but I stand by that statement, because I believe that it’s completely true. That kind of statement, in context, would make me a bad hire for a position like Miss Marcotte’s for any conservative candidate.
As bloggers, we are expressing our opinions, with greater or lesser consideration, all across the ether. Our constraints are self imposed, but unless one of us happens to be planning on running for office, those constraints aren’t necessarily the things that would be condusive to a future political campaign.
If your work is honest and sincere, never apologize. I was recently in a “Social Problems” class and when the topic came to homosexuality, I presented a Flash slideshow in which I said (essentially), “Yeah, it’s a problem. But it’s a problem *because of* the lies spread by the Christians, Conservatives, and Republicans.” I then took most of their arguments and debunked them. In front of my class.
One of my fellow students was a Christian Conservative Republican and she was aghast. “I can’t believe you said all those things. I feel affronted.” To which I replied, “Good.”
My refusal to apologize or backtrack really ticked her off (but from the rest of the class I earned kudos); she really thought I’d back down from my position just because her mouth was ajar. Every time she took the “You’ve insulted me” tack, I responded with “Welcome to my world. Now imagine being attacked like that every day for your entire life. And while you’re doing that imagine that the attacks are based on lies, brainwashing, and un-examined hatred.”
So don’t back down. If what you say is honest (and I’ve been reading here for some time and I’d have to say it is), and sincere….then when they cry about how insulted they are respond with “Good.”
private to mds: are you being sarcastic?
I don’t even know anymore.
You left wing losers drive me crazy.. I remember after 911 you were crawling around under your beds.. Save Us .. Save Us. Bomb something.. Bomb anything!!!
Now that you have the war that you wanted, you no longer have the stomach for it.
I pity all of you. You think because you read about Vietnam in a history book
you can make an informed opinion about it. But you can’t.
Until you’ve marched, until you’ve served, until you’ve been shot at, don’t attempt to speak for me, because you obviously have no idea what you are speaking about.
You know about as much about freedom as I do about Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. But then, hey, we can’t know everything. The difference is, I don’t act like I do.
mds, your comment at 7:12 is the funniest thing I’ve read all day.
Too bad I didn’t stop with your post.
Wait, what? Try not to be such a goddamned cucumber, Danny- I am not convinced you know anything about anything.
After 9/11, I was saying I wished we had a real president. And I took shit for it from crawling conservatives who thought I was being partisan. Considering what he’s done since, and what he’s doing now, I was right, even without marching around.
The lefties were the ones going “bomb them! bomb them!” I thought we were trying to give therapy and candy and banana stickers to the terrorist instead of fighting them. How the tables have turned, now that the wars gone bad.
Um, after 9/11 I was quite upset for the families of all who had died, and I hoped a swift police action would bring the mastermind(s) to justice. And maybe, just maybe, 9/11 could serve as a starting point for some real, open conversation about the foreign policies of nations like the United States and Canada. Can’t speak for everyone here, but I don’t recall a lot of desire for more deaths by bombing…
Ugly in Pink: Also, athiests are neat, and shiny-keen, unlike religious people, who often smell somewhat like sour milk, and many of whom show a deep and abiding hatred for women, children, puppies, and rainbows.
You mean, atheists are clean and articulate?
/biden (trying to be clear that I’m teasing, in the context of the point of this post and all)
In fifty-three years of living I’ve come to conclude that I don’t need to fear god as much as I need to fear the so-called men of god (one will just damn you, the others will kill you with no questions asked).
A learned man I once knew said, “If you scratch a preacher, a thief will howl.” I tend to think he was limited as to the scope of who will vocalized their discontent when their sacred cow goes to the Bar-B-Que. It appears to me the New Testament requirement of turning the other cheek has been ignored by the boys of the Vatican.
The only way I can take Danny’s comment is satirically. Otherwise it just doesn’t register with my brain. Although, if you removed the 1st and 2nd paragraphs, then it just comes across as egotistical and conceited.
You know, Danny, I’ve always been a “left wing loser”. From the days I went to school in drag to piss off those wearing letterman jackets to the most recent protest in DC. (OH NO Danny! A boy in drag! I must be a queer!) I was in the military when 9/11 went down. Come to remember it, I was stationed about two hours outside of NYC. I don’t recall anyone screaming “bomb something…bomb anything”, but I do happen to recall slack faces of shock on dozens of young, quiet sailors as one of them finally spoke up. “We’re going to war.”
(…and in the Navy!? “thar lettin’ gayz in my armyz!”)
None of us wanted what was about to come to us, but we knew the hazards that came with signing the papers. Most of us just wanted to live long enough to use the college money promised to us poor kids by rich pigs who cry out for this shit but wouldn’t dare have their children sign up for it.
My father was a vietnam vet long before I was an Iraqi veteran. The history book comes in handy, but anyone can tell you that history is written by the winners, and that the same people that promised me my college money were also fanning the flames for Vietnam. I think i have every right to form my opinions about both ‘nam and Iraq.
You know…having been to the latter.
So with that, let me say that I have done my marching, that I have done my serving, and that I know exactly of what I am speaking. There was probably more freedom in the military than there is here back in “the real world”. They cover your ass in too many situations. There, you have no real responsiblities. So don’t babble on to me about freedom and whatnot when you don’t know where the readers on this site come from.
Takes all kinds, baby.
…and I’m still pretty fucking left wing.
PS: I’m also pretty familiar with the theory of relativity. Drop me a line, I’ll fill in the details for you.
Danny: You so like this war… enlist… I can reccomend several recruiters.
Me, I’m in the Army, and like Derek (preach it swabbie
, I knew that the balloon was going up on That Tuesday, but I sure as fuck (being a ground-pounder) wasn’t singing the praises of bombing people.
When you’ve been there, seen the carnage (you might want to look up the root for that word), smelt the death, and the dying, held people’s lives in your hands (because the reports you write lead to decisions, and when you’re scared, it’s only 12 lbs of pressure to shoot the guy resting in the sights), and lived in a quiet state of unending fear, then you can preach about how people are weak to dislike war.
Am I being patronizing, condescending and smug.
Yep.
Because the things you said don’t give me any reason to believe you’ve got the least clue about who, or what, your’re writing.
TK
“[Malkin is] fascist scum and an apologist for anti-Constitutional activity.” Anti-Constiutional activity is bad, unless of course it’s against the Second Amendment, which is even more evil and bad.
Danny: “You left wing losers drive me crazy.. I remember after 911 you were crawling around under your beds.. Save Us .. Save Us. Bomb something.. Bomb anything!!! Now that you have the war that you wanted, you no longer have the stomach for it. I pity all of you. You think because you read about Vietnam in a history book you can make an informed opinion about it. But you can’t.
Until you’ve marched, until you’ve served, until you’ve been shot at, don’t attempt to speak for me, because you obviously have no idea what you are speaking about. You know about as much about freedom as I do about Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. But then, hey, we can’t know everything. The difference is, I don’t act like I do.”
Really?
I was in High School during the Iran Hostage situation. I (and my husband) served in the USAF 10 years after Vietnam ended, during the height of the Cold War. Dad was Navy in Korea, Gpa was Army in WWII. I’ve been a progressive Democrat for my whole life. I didn’t cry for someone to save me, or to bomb something, I was saddened in 9/11 for the men in US service who would be sent to die.
Desert Storm was okay, George senior sent ‘em in, and got ‘em out. It was all the mission required (to free Kuwait). I didn’t even mind going in to Afganistan, since that was where Bin Laden was, but I never approved Jr invading Iraq. He had no cause, despite the lies, and the mission in Afganistan wasn’t even over yet… I supported the troops, but I have never supported this war.