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		<title>by: kb</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/02/03/patriot-pastor-parsley-calls-for-the-imprisonment-of-adulterers/#comment-355394</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I know this comment comes much later but I have to give my opinion on this one.

I think you all are missing the point.  It's not about being judgemental.  Yes everyone has made some mistakes in there lifetime.  I know I've had my share.

I believe the point is this.  There are no consequences for peoples actions these days.  We live in a &quot;if it feels good do it society&quot;.  Bet if you had a cheating spouse that broke your heart and tore your life away, you might feel different.

Here's the deal.  No one forced you to get married.  When you married, you signed a legal binding contact.  In that, you commited to be faithful to your spouse and in your vows you willfully spoke, you agreed til death you would be commited to them.

I know biblically divorce is not smiled upon in the sight of God, but since most of you don't care about the &quot;God Aspect&quot; why not consider this . . . If you want to be with someone else - get a divorce!  Why cheat?  Get out of the relationship and move on.

Basically what I believe is if there were consequences, such as what Pastor Parsley spoke of, people would be a lot slower to make decisions like having affairs.  Maybe they would take seriously the contract that they entered into.

I'm not sure why we look at marriage differently.  If you entered into a contract for a business deal and didn't not stick to the terms and conditions listed therein, you would be held liable and have to pay whatever consequences neccessary.  And a marriage contract shouldn't be taken any less seriously.

If a man commits murder, he's going to suffer the penalty.  Even if everyone forgives him, even God himself, according to the laws of the US - he is still going to have to pay for what he did.  So the judgemental excuse does not play in to me.  No one is saying if someone commits adultery they should not be forgiven.  I'm just saying, even though their forgiven, just like a murderer, a theif, etc., because they broke a law, they still have to pay.

I'm not saying I think adulterers should be lockup.  If they were, sadly over 50% of our population probably would be.  However, I do believe if there were consequences such as these, the problem would be a lot less.

Just my thoughts.  I know it goes against what most of you believe but that doesn't matter to me.  We live in a society with no discipline, no boundaries, and no moral regard, because of that (no matter what you blame in on) we are where we are today.

Bottom line - Don't cheat!  If you want out, get out.  And if you don't want to commit to one person for the rest of your life - DON'T GET MARRIED!  Simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I know this comment comes much later but I have to give my opinion on this one.</p>
	<p>I think you all are missing the point.  It&#8217;s not about being judgemental.  Yes everyone has made some mistakes in there lifetime.  I know I&#8217;ve had my share.</p>
	<p>I believe the point is this.  There are no consequences for peoples actions these days.  We live in a &#8220;if it feels good do it society&#8221;.  Bet if you had a cheating spouse that broke your heart and tore your life away, you might feel different.</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s the deal.  No one forced you to get married.  When you married, you signed a legal binding contact.  In that, you commited to be faithful to your spouse and in your vows you willfully spoke, you agreed til death you would be commited to them.</p>
	<p>I know biblically divorce is not smiled upon in the sight of God, but since most of you don&#8217;t care about the &#8220;God Aspect&#8221; why not consider this . . . If you want to be with someone else - get a divorce!  Why cheat?  Get out of the relationship and move on.</p>
	<p>Basically what I believe is if there were consequences, such as what Pastor Parsley spoke of, people would be a lot slower to make decisions like having affairs.  Maybe they would take seriously the contract that they entered into.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m not sure why we look at marriage differently.  If you entered into a contract for a business deal and didn&#8217;t not stick to the terms and conditions listed therein, you would be held liable and have to pay whatever consequences neccessary.  And a marriage contract shouldn&#8217;t be taken any less seriously.</p>
	<p>If a man commits murder, he&#8217;s going to suffer the penalty.  Even if everyone forgives him, even God himself, according to the laws of the US - he is still going to have to pay for what he did.  So the judgemental excuse does not play in to me.  No one is saying if someone commits adultery they should not be forgiven.  I&#8217;m just saying, even though their forgiven, just like a murderer, a theif, etc., because they broke a law, they still have to pay.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m not saying I think adulterers should be lockup.  If they were, sadly over 50% of our population probably would be.  However, I do believe if there were consequences such as these, the problem would be a lot less.</p>
	<p>Just my thoughts.  I know it goes against what most of you believe but that doesn&#8217;t matter to me.  We live in a society with no discipline, no boundaries, and no moral regard, because of that (no matter what you blame in on) we are where we are today.</p>
	<p>Bottom line - Don&#8217;t cheat!  If you want out, get out.  And if you don&#8217;t want to commit to one person for the rest of your life - DON&#8217;T GET MARRIED!  Simple as that.
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		<title>by: MM</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/02/03/patriot-pastor-parsley-calls-for-the-imprisonment-of-adulterers/#comment-354052</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trust me, you don't even know a thing about Rod Parsley. I grew up about a mile from the guy. Even most christians can't stand him or his cult following. I had the unfortunate experience of having to work with some of his &quot;harvest patch kids&quot; as we called them a while back, and they are the most judgemental people on earth, not to mention the fact that they can't talk about much else other than Jesus, regardless of the topic. Parsley and his ilk are bona-fide nuts and hardly indicative of most people that go to church. I'm still trying to figure out how he's brainwashed that many people. (kinda funny, but one common denominator I noticed with the HPK's I met was that they were all very screwed up individuals before joining the cult. Perhaps he preys on vulnerable individuals.)

Just thought I'd give y'all some insight into Parsley and World Harvest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trust me, you don&#8217;t even know a thing about Rod Parsley. I grew up about a mile from the guy. Even most christians can&#8217;t stand him or his cult following. I had the unfortunate experience of having to work with some of his &#8220;harvest patch kids&#8221; as we called them a while back, and they are the most judgemental people on earth, not to mention the fact that they can&#8217;t talk about much else other than Jesus, regardless of the topic. Parsley and his ilk are bona-fide nuts and hardly indicative of most people that go to church. I&#8217;m still trying to figure out how he&#8217;s brainwashed that many people. (kinda funny, but one common denominator I noticed with the HPK&#8217;s I met was that they were all very screwed up individuals before joining the cult. Perhaps he preys on vulnerable individuals.)</p>
	<p>Just thought I&#8217;d give y&#8217;all some insight into Parsley and World Harvest.
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		<title>by: mythago</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/02/03/patriot-pastor-parsley-calls-for-the-imprisonment-of-adulterers/#comment-353877</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The case in question involved a guy swapping drugs for sex.

&lt;i&gt;Thus any adultery involving oral sex (technically) also invokes the commission of a felony clause in the criminal sexual misconduct&lt;/i&gt;

No, it wouldn't. The statute refers to penetration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The case in question involved a guy swapping drugs for sex.</p>
	<p><i>Thus any adultery involving oral sex (technically) also invokes the commission of a felony clause in the criminal sexual misconduct</i></p>
	<p>No, it wouldn&#8217;t. The statute refers to penetration.
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		<title>by: investigativeblog.net &raquo; ‘Patriot Pastor’ Parsley calls for the imprisonment of adulterers at Pandagon</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/02/03/patriot-pastor-parsley-calls-for-the-imprisonment-of-adulterers/#comment-353813</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] ‘Patriot Pastor’ Parsley calls for the imprisonment of adulterers at Pandagon  This should be fun. Ohio Talibangelist Rod Parsley, one of the infamous Patriot Pastors who backed homophobe GOP candidate Ken Blackwell for governor in last year’s election, is beating the drum to have dust-laden state adultery laws enforced. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] ‘Patriot Pastor’ Parsley calls for the imprisonment of adulterers at Pandagon  This should be fun. Ohio Talibangelist Rod Parsley, one of the infamous Patriot Pastors who backed homophobe GOP candidate Ken Blackwell for governor in last year’s election, is beating the drum to have dust-laden state adultery laws enforced. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/02/03/patriot-pastor-parsley-calls-for-the-imprisonment-of-adulterers/#comment-353803</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>MAJeff - me, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>MAJeff - me, too.
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		<title>by: doremi</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/02/03/patriot-pastor-parsley-calls-for-the-imprisonment-of-adulterers/#comment-353656</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Hey, I have a great idea: Why don’t these guys propose that adulterers be taken out into the public square and stoned instead of being sent to prison?

Next they could propose that those who curse in public should have their tongues cut out, that thieves should have their hands cut off and that people who say naughty things about the Christian god should be hanged. I mean, while we’re trying so hard to emulate oppressive theocratic regimes, why not go all the way?&quot;


Exactly. It's skewing waaay too much to the right for my liking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Hey, I have a great idea: Why don’t these guys propose that adulterers be taken out into the public square and stoned instead of being sent to prison?</p>
	<p>Next they could propose that those who curse in public should have their tongues cut out, that thieves should have their hands cut off and that people who say naughty things about the Christian god should be hanged. I mean, while we’re trying so hard to emulate oppressive theocratic regimes, why not go all the way?&#8221;</p>
	<p>Exactly. It&#8217;s skewing waaay too much to the right for my liking.
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		<title>by: MAJeff</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/02/03/patriot-pastor-parsley-calls-for-the-imprisonment-of-adulterers/#comment-353627</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'll try to avoid getting a job in Michigan, as I swear like a sailor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ll try to avoid getting a job in Michigan, as I swear like a sailor.
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		<title>by: Shell Goddamnit</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/02/03/patriot-pastor-parsley-calls-for-the-imprisonment-of-adulterers/#comment-353610</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>MAJeff:

The laws against profanity are also, apparently, unenforceable; still, people still keep getting arrested.

From 2002:

http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/michigan/minews14.htm

and from 2004:

http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/michigan/minews021.htm

These kind of laws seem almost to be MADE for selective enforcement...hmmmm.

Though I personally **like** being a multiple felon; it's part of the thrill. But then I have that luxury, being unlikely to be arrested on account of being white, middle aged, middle class, and heterosexual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>MAJeff:</p>
	<p>The laws against profanity are also, apparently, unenforceable; still, people still keep getting arrested.</p>
	<p>From 2002:</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/michigan/minews14.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/michigan/minews14.htm</a></p>
	<p>and from 2004:</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/michigan/minews021.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/michigan/minews021.htm</a></p>
	<p>These kind of laws seem almost to be MADE for selective enforcement&#8230;hmmmm.</p>
	<p>Though I personally **like** being a multiple felon; it&#8217;s part of the thrill. But then I have that luxury, being unlikely to be arrested on account of being white, middle aged, middle class, and heterosexual.
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		<title>by: Bonnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>OK Kev, Google &quot;Gingrich President&quot; - he is discussed as a candidate, whether or not you believe it.

And in any event, as sooo many others have pointed out to you, the issue, the point if you will, of Ms Spaulding's post, is to point out hypocrisy, not to point out that Democrats have also committed adultery. That's the tipping point between &quot;Do as I say&quot; (you know, &quot;I say do not commit adultery 'cuz if you do you should go to jail&quot;) and &quot;Not as I (and those in power in the party I support) do&quot; (you know, commit adultery and NOT go to jail).

Yes, we know (we ALL know - everyone on the d*mn planet with a TV knows) that President Clinton got a blow job. In the White House. While still married. Is that a hypocritical position AS FRAMED BY THE POINT OF THE POST?

No.

Why &quot;No&quot;?

Because he is not simutaneously advocating jail time for adulterers (although had he gone directly to jail it might have spared him that nasty black eye . . .).

No hypocrisy there.

Ms Spaulding points out that this group of GOPers who are or have been mentioned as presidential candidates and who are probably supported by the good pastor and his bible-beatin' flock have committed adultery.

That's the tipping point into hypocrisy.

See the difference yet?

And I betcha that if there was an identical situation on the left, Ms Spaulding would be equally disposed to point it out.

It's not &quot;Us against Them&quot; - it's about (all together now) HYPOCRISY. It is not about adultery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>OK Kev, Google &#8220;Gingrich President&#8221; - he is discussed as a candidate, whether or not you believe it.</p>
	<p>And in any event, as sooo many others have pointed out to you, the issue, the point if you will, of Ms Spaulding&#8217;s post, is to point out hypocrisy, not to point out that Democrats have also committed adultery. That&#8217;s the tipping point between &#8220;Do as I say&#8221; (you know, &#8220;I say do not commit adultery &#8216;cuz if you do you should go to jail&#8221;) and &#8220;Not as I (and those in power in the party I support) do&#8221; (you know, commit adultery and NOT go to jail).</p>
	<p>Yes, we know (we ALL know - everyone on the d*mn planet with a TV knows) that President Clinton got a blow job. In the White House. While still married. Is that a hypocritical position AS FRAMED BY THE POINT OF THE POST?</p>
	<p>No.</p>
	<p>Why &#8220;No&#8221;?</p>
	<p>Because he is not simutaneously advocating jail time for adulterers (although had he gone directly to jail it might have spared him that nasty black eye . . .).</p>
	<p>No hypocrisy there.</p>
	<p>Ms Spaulding points out that this group of GOPers who are or have been mentioned as presidential candidates and who are probably supported by the good pastor and his bible-beatin&#8217; flock have committed adultery.</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s the tipping point into hypocrisy.</p>
	<p>See the difference yet?</p>
	<p>And I betcha that if there was an identical situation on the left, Ms Spaulding would be equally disposed to point it out.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;Us against Them&#8221; - it&#8217;s about (all together now) HYPOCRISY. It is not about adultery.
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		<title>by: columbusqueen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My aunt once did some contract work w/ an interior designer that was rigging out both Pastor Rod's house &amp;amp; church.  She described all the staffers at World Harvest as the &quot;Stepford secretaries&quot;--young, pretty, &amp;amp; totally brainwashed, viewing Rod as God's voice on earth.

So I have a very strong suspicion that Pastor Rod may have his own private harem.  Guess it wouldn't count as adultery, since Rod probably believes God ordered him to sleep with all the lasses as a way to bring them to heaven.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My aunt once did some contract work w/ an interior designer that was rigging out both Pastor Rod&#8217;s house &amp; church.  She described all the staffers at World Harvest as the &#8220;Stepford secretaries&#8221;&#8211;young, pretty, &amp; totally brainwashed, viewing Rod as God&#8217;s voice on earth.</p>
	<p>So I have a very strong suspicion that Pastor Rod may have his own private harem.  Guess it wouldn&#8217;t count as adultery, since Rod probably believes God ordered him to sleep with all the lasses as a way to bring them to heaven.  <img src='http://pandagon.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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