Comments on: Is PETA the same group as Operation Rescue? http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:47:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Cam http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-468080 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:16:25 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-468080 Interesting... I think the majority of your entry is dead on and really shows how PETA uses the same propaganda that anti-abortionists do... But towards the end there, a little off the mark. Your comments about PETA killing animals; your promotion of so-called "no-kill" shelters - doesn't it strike you as being similer to the rhetoric used by anti-choicers when they decsribe the "killing" of fetuses etc etc? I see a huge parallel between the language of anti-choicers and anti-euthenasia advocates (other wise known as the no-kill movement). All this this languge does is juxtapose "no-kill" with kill, creating a value system that equates a shelter that does euthenize animals with the bad mommies who kill their babies. Who makes this false systems of ethics? Why is it bad to end a pregnancy you don't want? Why is it bad to euthenize an animal who is suffering or is totally unadoptable? It creates a "culture of life" the same way anti-choice rhetoric does. If I may, I'd love to suggest you do a little research on "no-kill". It's eye-opening. There's no such thing as a "no-kill" shelter - animals unsuitable for adoption (due to health, temperment, etc) are shipped off to animal control agencies and open-admission animal welfare agencies who do wind up euthenizing the animal because there is no way to place them in a home. I work in an open admission shelter. This means that we take in any and all animals no questions asked. "no-kill", or as they are properly called, limited-admission shelters/organizations, only take in what they deem adoptable and refer the rest to us. How do you place a 10 year old rotweiller who's lived his whole live chained in a yard and has developed aggression issues? How do you place a young border collie without bite inhibition and a extreme fear of men/children/other dogs? Where are the resources to help these dogs? Those resources turn them away and send them to us, a non-profit open admission shelter that has only 26 dog kennels and recieves on average 2-5 dogs a day. Think about it. Interesting… I think the majority of your entry is dead on and really shows how PETA uses the same propaganda that anti-abortionists do…
But towards the end there, a little off the mark. Your comments about PETA killing animals; your promotion of so-called “no-kill” shelters - doesn’t it strike you as being similer to the rhetoric used by anti-choicers when they decsribe the “killing” of fetuses etc etc? I see a huge parallel between the language of anti-choicers and anti-euthenasia advocates (other wise known as the no-kill movement). All this this languge does is juxtapose “no-kill” with kill, creating a value system that equates a shelter that does euthenize animals with the bad mommies who kill their babies. Who makes this false systems of ethics? Why is it bad to end a pregnancy you don’t want? Why is it bad to euthenize an animal who is suffering or is totally unadoptable? It creates a “culture of life” the same way anti-choice rhetoric does.
If I may, I’d love to suggest you do a little research on “no-kill”. It’s eye-opening. There’s no such thing as a “no-kill” shelter - animals unsuitable for adoption (due to health, temperment, etc) are shipped off to animal control agencies and open-admission animal welfare agencies who do wind up euthenizing the animal because there is no way to place them in a home. I work in an open admission shelter. This means that we take in any and all animals no questions asked. “no-kill”, or as they are properly called, limited-admission shelters/organizations, only take in what they deem adoptable and refer the rest to us. How do you place a 10 year old rotweiller who’s lived his whole live chained in a yard and has developed aggression issues? How do you place a young border collie without bite inhibition and a extreme fear of men/children/other dogs? Where are the resources to help these dogs? Those resources turn them away and send them to us, a non-profit open admission shelter that has only 26 dog kennels and recieves on average 2-5 dogs a day.
Think about it.

]]> by: Cam http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-468079 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:14:08 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-468079 Interesting... I think the majority of your entry is dead on and really shows how PETA uses the same propaganda that anti-abortionists do... But towards the end there, a little off the mark. Your comments about PETA killing animals; your promotion of so-called "no-kill" shelters - doesn't it strike you as being similer to the rhetoric used by anti-choicers when they decsribe the "killing" of fetuses etc etc? I see a huge parallel between the language of anti-choicers and anti-euthenasia advocates (other wise known as the no-kill movement). All this this languge does is juxtapose "no-kill" with kill, creating a value system that equates a shelter that does euthenize animals with the bad mommies who kill their babies. Who makes this false systems of ethics? Why is it bad to end a pregnancy you don't want? Why is it bad to euthenize an animal who is suffering or is totally unadoptable? It creates a "culture of life" the same way anti-choice rhetoric does. If I may, I'd love to suggest you do a little research on "no-kill". It's eye-opening. There's no such thing as a "no-kill" shelter - animals unsuitable for adoption (due to health, temperment, etc) are shipped off to animal control agencies and open-admission animal welfare agencies who do wind up euthenizing the animal because there is no way to place them in a home. I work in an open admission shelter. This means that we take in any and all animals no questions asked. "no-kill", or as they are properly called, limited-admission shelters/organizations, only take in what they deem adoptable and refer the rest to us. How do you place a 10 year old rotweiller who's lived his whole live chained in a yard and has developed aggression issues? How do you place a young border collie without bite inhibition and a extreme fear of men/children/other dogs? Where are the resources to help these dogs? Those resources turn them away and send them to us, a non-profit open admission shelter that has only 26 dog kennels and recieves on average 2-5 dogs a day. Think about it. Interesting… I think the majority of your entry is dead on and really shows how PETA uses the same propaganda that anti-abortionists do…
But towards the end there, a little off the mark. Your comments about PETA killing animals; your promotion of so-called “no-kill” shelters - doesn’t it strike you as being similer to the rhetoric used by anti-choicers when they decsribe the “killing” of fetuses etc etc? I see a huge parallel between the language of anti-choicers and anti-euthenasia advocates (other wise known as the no-kill movement). All this this languge does is juxtapose “no-kill” with kill, creating a value system that equates a shelter that does euthenize animals with the bad mommies who kill their babies. Who makes this false systems of ethics? Why is it bad to end a pregnancy you don’t want? Why is it bad to euthenize an animal who is suffering or is totally unadoptable? It creates a “culture of life” the same way anti-choice rhetoric does.
If I may, I’d love to suggest you do a little research on “no-kill”. It’s eye-opening. There’s no such thing as a “no-kill” shelter - animals unsuitable for adoption (due to health, temperment, etc) are shipped off to animal control agencies and open-admission animal welfare agencies who do wind up euthenizing the animal because there is no way to place them in a home. I work in an open admission shelter. This means that we take in any and all animals no questions asked. “no-kill”, or as they are properly called, limited-admission shelters/organizations, only take in what they deem adoptable and refer the rest to us. How do you place a 10 year old rotweiller who’s lived his whole live chained in a yard and has developed aggression issues? How do you place a young border collie without bite inhibition and a extreme fear of men/children/other dogs? Where are the resources to help these dogs? Those resources turn them away and send them to us, a non-profit open admission shelter that has only 26 dog kennels and recieves on average 2-5 dogs a day.
Think about it.

]]> by: InterracialPower http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-354592 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:04:21 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-354592 Comaparing Animal Rights and the rights of the unborn is inhumane. Humans are not in the catagory of animals. Abortion has decreaced the number of African Americans and other minorities who could be in this country. Abortion decreaces family intergration signifigantly. I am a Black man who is interracially married. I have a biological son who is half white and an adopted daughter who is African American like myself. I look forward to a more intergrated America like my family. A few states like Mississippi could have been majority minority with Black govenors. They could have been represented by majoritys of Minority seanators and congressmen. Another sad development abortion has caused is that tens of thousands of interracial babies who could have intergrated tens of thousands of families,were never born. Also, thousands of White families could have been blended through adoption. Abortion slows the day when most American families will be able to point to the minority members of thier families. It slows intergration. Mabey that is why White Racist groups like Neo Natzis and the KKK Love Abortion in Ghettos but they try to blow up clinics in predomanantly White areas. Interracial Power. Comaparing Animal Rights and the rights of the unborn
is inhumane. Humans are not in the catagory of
animals. Abortion has decreaced the number of
African Americans and other minorities who could be in this country. Abortion decreaces family intergration signifigantly.

I am a Black man who is interracially married. I have a biological son who is half white and an adopted
daughter who is African American like myself. I look forward to a more intergrated America like my family.

A few states like Mississippi could
have been majority minority with Black govenors.
They could have been represented by majoritys of Minority seanators and congressmen.

Another sad development abortion has caused is that
tens of thousands of interracial babies who could
have intergrated tens of thousands of families,were never born. Also, thousands of White families could have been blended through adoption.

Abortion slows the day when most American
families will be able to point to the minority members
of thier families.
It slows intergration.

Mabey that is why White Racist groups like Neo Natzis and the KKK Love Abortion in Ghettos but they try to blow up clinics in predomanantly White areas.

Interracial Power.

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]]> by: D http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-352963 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:08:15 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-352963 You're not going to get very far by citing a law pushed through by an anti-choice congress. You want to think of a fetus as a person, you go right ahead. But let me ask you this; when a person is doing harm to your body, should you be allowed to take actions to stop them? Would it be permissible for such actions to result in said person's death? The law is fairly clear upon this point. You’re not going to get very far by citing a law pushed through by an anti-choice congress. You want to think of a fetus as a person, you go right ahead. But let me ask you this; when a person is doing harm to your body, should you be allowed to take actions to stop them? Would it be permissible for such actions to result in said person’s death? The law is fairly clear upon this point.

]]> by: Alas, a blog » Blog Archive » Bunch-O-Links/Open Thread (While the Amp’s Away The Rachel Will Play Edition) http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-352703 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:07:21 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-352703 [...] 7. I also had to give a shout out to Amanda on this post comparing anti-abortion activists and animal rights activists. [...] […] 7. I also had to give a shout out to Amanda on this post comparing anti-abortion activists and animal rights activists. […]

]]> by: Jaisee http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-352651 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:20:55 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-352651 Fray v. rub;make or become ragged at edge. (as in something worn out) The Unborn Victims of Violence Act is a United States law which defines violent assault committed against pregnant women as being a crime against two persons: the woman and the fetus she carries. This law was passed in 2004 after the murder of the then pregnant Laci Peterson and her fetus, Connor Peterson. If it is right for a man (or woman) to be charged for homicide and sentenced to prison (or worse) for killing the unborn (and rightfully so) then shouldn't the unborn have equil consideration in relation to abortion..? Is a fetus earmarked for abortion of any less value to a fetus killed by violence...? Is not abortion a violent attack on an inocent life just the same...? I think it's not ethical to protect one without the other..... they're one and the same........ Fray v. rub;make or become ragged at edge.
(as in something worn out)

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act is a United States law which defines violent assault committed against pregnant women as being a crime against two persons: the woman and the fetus she carries.

This law was passed in 2004 after the murder of the then pregnant Laci Peterson and her fetus, Connor Peterson.

If it is right for a man (or woman) to be charged for homicide and sentenced to prison (or worse) for killing the unborn (and rightfully so)

then shouldn’t the unborn have equil consideration in relation to abortion..?

Is a fetus earmarked for abortion of any less value to a fetus killed by violence…?

Is not abortion a violent attack on an inocent life just the same…?

I think it’s not ethical to protect one without the other…..

they’re one and the same……..

]]> by: Phoenician in a time of Romans http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-352008 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:51:24 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-352008 <i>With each new generation, comes the realisations of some of the mistakes of the former. Something to do with evolution I suspect.</i> <i>Many practices of the past are no longer practiced. Abortion should soon join the fray.</i> Evolve enough to look up the correct meaning of the word "fray", would you? With each new generation, comes the realisations of some of the mistakes of the former. Something to do with evolution I suspect.

Many practices of the past are no longer practiced. Abortion should soon join the fray.

Evolve enough to look up the correct meaning of the word “fray”, would you?

]]> by: Jaisee http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-351623 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:08:05 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-351623 With each new generation, comes the realisations of some of the mistakes of the former. Something to do with evolution I suspect. Many practices of the past are no longer practiced. Abortion should soon join the fray. So should female circumcision, and all types of oppression,we need to see that all mankind has their basic human rights respected. With each new generation, comes the realisations of some of the mistakes of the former.

Something to do with evolution I suspect.

Many practices of the past are no longer practiced.

Abortion should soon join the fray.

So should female circumcision, and all types of oppression,we need to see that all mankind has their basic human rights respected.

]]> by: Adventures in Ethics and Science http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-351514 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:31:30 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/01/27/is-peta-the-same-group-as-operation-rescue/#comment-351514 <strong>Naked chicks in PETA ads: the ethics of getting your point across....</strong> There's been some blogospheric blowout (see here, here, and here for just a taste) about a recent PETA ad that many viewers find gratuitously sexist. To me, the ad and the reaction to it are most interesting because they raise...... Naked chicks in PETA ads: the ethics of getting your point across….

There’s been some blogospheric blowout (see here, here, and here for just a taste) about a recent PETA ad that many viewers find gratuitously sexist. To me, the ad and the reaction to it are most interesting because they raise……

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