So, it’s been previously shown that there isn’t a generation of Americans with living representatives who ‘waited.’ It’s also been shown that divorce rates are lower in the US’ liberal enclaves, where people are presumably more likely to be havin…

Remember the Georgia school district that banned all “noncurricular clubs” in order to keep a gay-straight alliance from meeting on school grounds? We won, a federal judge issued a permanent injunction against the school in July 2006. This week, the….

Between this thread and the one about soy and homosexuality, I’m starting to think that you see no difference between accepting that something happens and promoting something. To you, when someone says “Using a condom is a way to stay safe”, you hear “Go out and fuck the football team!” When someone says, “I think gay people should be allowed to marry”, you hear “Let’s use the public schools to make everyone gay!” You are really making some untenable leaps in your logic in both instances. Plus, you underestimate your kids - as well as your parenting abilities - in thinking that the mere presence of something will be enough to make them sway from the values you’ve instilled in them.

You say you accept that people are gay and that people have sex outside of marriage, but then you turn around and play the persecuted martyr, as if all of the godless homosexuals with forked tongues of the world are out to destroy you and your family. Trust me when I tell you that people who are gay, who have sex outside of marriage and who have forked tongues are probably way too busy living their own lives to want to bother with yours.

So now I go into why I’m not against you splitting your tongue, but I am against you popularizing it for the sake of my children. Free-will is great, but temptation to the innocent is not. Around and around.

What it comes down to is, you fail to see the cause for alarm, I see cause for alarm.

So, I guess I’ll be going now. (cheers from the crowd)
Merry Christmas!

As far as tongue-splitting is concerned (I know that one seems to have made a lasting impression on you ), it is a FRINGE activity that is very unlikely to ever spread into mainstream. Believe me, most of my friends are tatooed and/or pierced and I’ve never met someone who had had their tongue split (or intended to have it done).

Exactly my point, once again. 50 years ago, you would have to search for someone that would say “most of my friends are tatooed and/or pierced”. (agreed, you COULD find some, but it is much easier today to find someone that could say that)

It’s like every rung of the ladder society inches up to, they all still look up 3 rungs and say, “That will become mainstream.” But then, when we get there in 100 years, the young generation will be looking up to the NEXT three rungs and saying “that will never become mainstream”, all the while defending the rung on which they stand…the same rung that today we are saying, “it’s just a fring activity, it’ll never become mainstream.” It’s easy to scoff at this, but true. It’s like a social evolution of pushing the envelope. Surely you can see that?

My point exactly. I respect other people’s faiths and beliefs, but I think it’s definitely wrong to view people who have different ethics as “deviants” who are “stealing people’s innocence”.
Heck, I’m a confirmed agnostic, but there are tons of things mentioned above that I really don’t feel like experimenting, not because I think they’re immoral, but because I have no DESIRE to experiment them. And I know a lot of people like me. Just because you don’t get bent out of shape about people spanking each other or fist-fucking doesn’t mean you have an irrepressible urge to do it.
And like Mothworm already pointed out, body modifications as a whole have very little to do with sexuality. As far as tongue-splitting is concerned (I know that one seems to have made a lasting impression on you ), it is a FRINGE activity that is very unlikely to ever spread into mainstream. Believe me, most of my friends are tatooed and/or pierced and I’ve never met someone who had had their tongue split (or intended to have it done).

Seriously though, what makes you assume that abortion rights are high because of sex ed? wouldn’t teaching condom use tend to reduce abortion rates?