That is all. You-all have pretty much said it all, besides that.

:x

We oppose abortion in all cases because violence is a violation of basic feminist principles.

Ooookay. So . . . violence in defending ourselves is a no-no? Accepting oppression is more feminist than fighting it?

I don’t think so.

(Very convenient, as well, that they spend all their effort harping on the “violence” we do ourselves, in our avoidance of oppression, rather than doing anything about the violence perpetuated against us.)

And, on a deeper philosophical note, what is it about violence that makes it wrong, if not that it causes pain/suffering/destruction. Yet they deliberately say “violence,” not “causing pain/suffering/destruction,” because that way the pain and suffering and destruction (and various other things) caused to a woman by forcing her to create, carry and bear a child against her will, is eliminated from the equation, because people don’t think of the pain and ravages of pregnancy and childbirth as “violence” in the same way they think of abortion as “violence.” But it has the same result as the defining effect of violence that makes violence “wrong:” that it causes suffering and injury, this time on a being that can feel that pain, can comprehend that destruction, can experience that suffering—and is not living off things she has no right to access.

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeforum/2005/10/the_secret_l.html

I give you fair warning before clicking on the audio link-if you have a wak stomach, DON’T LISTEN to it.

In the FFL universe, you should marry a nice widower and raise his children, or you should at least marry and adopt. There’s no such thing as not wanting kids, and even those poor things who can’t breed their own ought to be mommies.

Into every life a little sperm must fall . . .

You know, I suspect there are fairly few prolifers at the their local social service agencies that deal specifically with child abuse and neglect. Not for long, anyway, one way or the other.

Since I’m an adoptee and I know some of the circumstances under which I came to be (one), I shudder every time I read something like what Heaton said. FFL = objectively pro-forced childbirth.