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	<title>Comments on: Pandagon goes undercover the lazy way on a Catholic anti-contraception seminar, Pt. II</title>
	<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/</link>
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		<title>by: teej</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-120233</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:16:29 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Because making sex about fun and not about marriage or babies is somehow thwarting God’s purpose for humanity.&lt;/i&gt;

Marital sex for the purposes of unity isn't supposed to be fun? What is it supposed to be, a difficult task that provides a sense of companionship and having done good work, like Habitat for Humanity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Because making sex about fun and not about marriage or babies is somehow thwarting God’s purpose for humanity.</i></p>
	<p>Marital sex for the purposes of unity isn&#8217;t supposed to be fun? What is it supposed to be, a difficult task that provides a sense of companionship and having done good work, like Habitat for Humanity?
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		<title>by: Mel</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-119546</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:44:29 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;So I think your religion teacher might have been committing a bit of a risky, if reality-based act.&lt;/i&gt;

I'm pretty sure she was.  She was loony and overshared about her blessed married sex life, but she did have a mostly reality-based view of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>So I think your religion teacher might have been committing a bit of a risky, if reality-based act.</i></p>
	<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure she was.  She was loony and overshared about her blessed married sex life, but she did have a mostly reality-based view of life.
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		<title>by: jennie</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-111544</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:43:40 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Mel, I have it on good authority from two Catholic education consultants that condoms are currently a very hot issue in the Church, and that educators should &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; be advocating their use. The Catholic line is that sex is only permissible in the context of a marriage (and remember they define marriage as &quot;between a man and a woman&quot;), for either procreative or unitive purposes (i.e. to make babies or to strengthen the bond between husband and wife. I think Catholics are allowed to shoot for two birds with one stone, but they're not allowed to simply seek orgasms for the sake of orgasm. Which means that solo masturbation is a sin.)  We were strongly advised not to make it sound as though we were advocating the use of condoms to either prevent conception or limit the spread of infection &lt;i&gt;even in a feature on HIV/AIDS in Africa and other developing countries&lt;/i&gt;.

We were not to give students the impression that condoms were at all advisable for sex, ever. Because making sex about fun and not about marriage or babies is somehow thwarting God's purpose for humanity. 

It's in the teaching guidelines. In creating our textbook we were strongly advised to describe Fertility Awareness as a means of family planning for married couples, to &quot;stick to the facts&quot; about other methods of birth control (and some of the &quot;facts&quot; they asked us to included have been disproven.), and not to encourage students to any course of action that might contravene the teachings of some nominally celibate man. 

So I think your religion teacher might have been committing a bit of a risky, if reality-based act. Good on her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mel, I have it on good authority from two Catholic education consultants that condoms are currently a very hot issue in the Church, and that educators should <i>not</i> be advocating their use. The Catholic line is that sex is only permissible in the context of a marriage (and remember they define marriage as &#8220;between a man and a woman&#8221;), for either procreative or unitive purposes (i.e. to make babies or to strengthen the bond between husband and wife. I think Catholics are allowed to shoot for two birds with one stone, but they&#8217;re not allowed to simply seek orgasms for the sake of orgasm. Which means that solo masturbation is a sin.)  We were strongly advised not to make it sound as though we were advocating the use of condoms to either prevent conception or limit the spread of infection <i>even in a feature on HIV/AIDS in Africa and other developing countries</i>.</p>
	<p>We were not to give students the impression that condoms were at all advisable for sex, ever. Because making sex about fun and not about marriage or babies is somehow thwarting God&#8217;s purpose for humanity. </p>
	<p>It&#8217;s in the teaching guidelines. In creating our textbook we were strongly advised to describe Fertility Awareness as a means of family planning for married couples, to &#8220;stick to the facts&#8221; about other methods of birth control (and some of the &#8220;facts&#8221; they asked us to included have been disproven.), and not to encourage students to any course of action that might contravene the teachings of some nominally celibate man. </p>
	<p>So I think your religion teacher might have been committing a bit of a risky, if reality-based act. Good on her.
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		<title>by: flipper</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-111525</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:27:27 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Anorexics can’t get pregnant, our bodies auto-abort.

Anorexia is the only 100% effective form of contraceptive.&lt;/i&gt;

I've known a few pregnant anorexics, which was just incredibly sad.  But, the biggest contraceptive feature of anorexia is that it kills your sex drive completely.  I've known several women and at least one gay man who developed eating disorders as a way to control/limit sexual drives that they were told were sinful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Anorexics can’t get pregnant, our bodies auto-abort.</p>
	<p>Anorexia is the only 100% effective form of contraceptive.</i></p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve known a few pregnant anorexics, which was just incredibly sad.  But, the biggest contraceptive feature of anorexia is that it kills your sex drive completely.  I&#8217;ve known several women and at least one gay man who developed eating disorders as a way to control/limit sexual drives that they were told were sinful.
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		<title>by: R. Mildred</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-111275</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 04:29:03 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;she will breed and spread her hellspawn to other generations.&lt;/i&gt;

Anorexics can't get pregnant, our bodies auto-abort.

Anorexia is the only 100% effective form of contraceptive.

That just adds another layer of satirical charm to coulter's persona, she's a pro-life, crazy conservative who's body is the biggest abortifacient known to man and who fucks liberal guys because they're cooler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>she will breed and spread her hellspawn to other generations.</i></p>
	<p>Anorexics can&#8217;t get pregnant, our bodies auto-abort.</p>
	<p>Anorexia is the only 100% effective form of contraceptive.</p>
	<p>That just adds another layer of satirical charm to coulter&#8217;s persona, she&#8217;s a pro-life, crazy conservative who&#8217;s body is the biggest abortifacient known to man and who fucks liberal guys because they&#8217;re cooler.
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		<title>by: Dan</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-111265</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 04:19:34 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ann Coulter was last known to be doing… a Liberal Guy! (wooOOOooo)&lt;/i&gt;

That any man has fallen so far into shadow makes me lose hope for the race, since, very likely, she will breed and spread her hellspawn to other generations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe so, but she'd probably eat her children before they were old enough to continue the line.

And knowing her, she probably wouldn't even bother killing them, first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p><i>Ann Coulter was last known to be doing… a Liberal Guy! (wooOOOooo)</i></p>
	<p>That any man has fallen so far into shadow makes me lose hope for the race, since, very likely, she will breed and spread her hellspawn to other generations.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Maybe so, but she&#8217;d probably eat her children before they were old enough to continue the line.</p>
	<p>And knowing her, she probably wouldn&#8217;t even bother killing them, first.
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		<title>by: Therese Norén</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-111221</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:27:29 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I was sixteen when I discovered that the secret to sleeping soundly with someone was separate covers. I turn around very much in my sleep, so it's been a relief for my partners since.

Our double bed is two single beds, joined in the middle, with a double mattress pad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was sixteen when I discovered that the secret to sleeping soundly with someone was separate covers. I turn around very much in my sleep, so it&#8217;s been a relief for my partners since.</p>
	<p>Our double bed is two single beds, joined in the middle, with a double mattress pad.
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		<title>by: JackGoff</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-110807</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:48:52 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;b&gt;Ann Coulter was last known to be doing… a Liberal Guy! (wooOOOooo)&lt;/b&gt;

That any man has fallen so far into shadow makes me lose hope for the race, since, very likely, she will breed and spread her hellspawn to other generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b>Ann Coulter was last known to be doing… a Liberal Guy! (wooOOOooo)</b></p>
	<p>That any man has fallen so far into shadow makes me lose hope for the race, since, very likely, she will breed and spread her hellspawn to other generations.
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		<title>by: junk science</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-110806</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:47:16 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Ann Coulter was last known to be doing… a Liberal Guy!&lt;/i&gt;

I'll believe that shit when I see it. And then I'll put my eyes out with my thumbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Ann Coulter was last known to be doing… a Liberal Guy!</i></p>
	<p>I&#8217;ll believe that shit when I see it. And then I&#8217;ll put my eyes out with my thumbs.
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		<title>by: Mel</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/06/14/pandagon-goes-undercover-the-lazy-way-on-a-catholic-anti-contraception-seminar-pt-ii/#comment-110770</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:20:48 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>My religion teacher in Catholic school told us condoms were okay (I don't think the administration knew she was telling us that) because &quot;unlike other forms of birth control, they don't kill fertilized eggs.&quot;  Well, neither do diaphragms/cervical caps with spermicide, and there's almost no evidence to suggest hormones do either.  But I think a lot of Catholics do consider condoms to be okay; they just don't like to talk about it.

I'm kind of bothered that they assume couples who use HBC just fuck like bunnies all the time and don't spend nonsexual time together ever.  Dude, if you never spend nonsexual time together in a marriage, you've got bigger issues than birth control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My religion teacher in Catholic school told us condoms were okay (I don&#8217;t think the administration knew she was telling us that) because &#8220;unlike other forms of birth control, they don&#8217;t kill fertilized eggs.&#8221;  Well, neither do diaphragms/cervical caps with spermicide, and there&#8217;s almost no evidence to suggest hormones do either.  But I think a lot of Catholics do consider condoms to be okay; they just don&#8217;t like to talk about it.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m kind of bothered that they assume couples who use HBC just fuck like bunnies all the time and don&#8217;t spend nonsexual time together ever.  Dude, if you never spend nonsexual time together in a marriage, you&#8217;ve got bigger issues than birth control.
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