Two entries in the bloggo this morning concerning Christain craziness: Conquered it overseas only to nurture it here The truth is that it doesn’t take as much for people to slide towards fascism as we’d like to think. The ingredients……

Oh boy, another afternoon with *that* looping endlessly around in my brain. Thanks, Ms. Kate.

Now that they’re admitting it, can we quit spending tax dollars on teaching their religious beliefs in public schools?

R. Kelly would disagree. Not that he’d be right or anything. He’d just disagree.

And as for our good friend Compass, in his lengthy response, he doesn’t really respond to the question of whether or not he remained pure until marriage. As for his comment that he never claimed that sex leads to “animalistic depravity” he merely “said that to BLESS untrammelled access to sex is to say that people are no better than animals. Again, you folks cannot read the message in plain English.”

So Compass if you’re still out there, what is “blessing” untrammeled access to sex? Why shouldn’t we have untrammeled access to sex? Why should we be expected to wait until marriage? Why does sexual exploration make us no better than animals? Why is sex outside of marriage a bad thing? I can read English, I’m just having a hard time figuring out what your deal is when it comes to sex. What do you propose? Abstinence only education? Is there something inherently wrong with teenagers having sex? If you did wait until marriage, or are waiting until marriage, why did you do so? Why should others? I’m not asking these questions because to be sarcastic, but because I would really like to know, because I really can’t figure it out.

so he’s not a badger badger badger but a mushroom mushroom

Compass said:

Try again?

“We teach abstinence because it’s the truth,� said Pattyn. “We don’t analyze ourselves based on reducing the risk.�

Is it just me or does it seem like they don’t even know what the meaning of “the truth� is? How exactly can “the truth� apply to abstinence as the subject of the sentence?

They mean they’re abandoning all pretense of “well, it really keeps kids from having sex, and prevents pregnancy and STDs” and just saying “the Bible says sex is bad without the magic words, we believe it, and that settles it.”

The witnessing one didn’t say sex is like peeing; he said nonmarital sex is like peeing on the carpet. That said, I’m not going to bother attempting to engage him in discussion because our worldviews are so incompatible — we’d be talking about totally different things even if we were using the same words. I recommend everyone who isn’t an evangelical Christian fundamentalist realize that he’s never going to realize your position can even make sense.