Comments on: Wednesday is the national Day of Silence http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:11:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Daniel Gonzales http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-510277 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:50:52 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-510277 Hey if you plan any further coverage of the anti-gay "Day of Truth" this year I wanted to bring your attention to a Youtube video I made examining some of the more troubling aspects of the Day of Truth -- Specifically how the DOT is little more than a thinly veiled attempt to promote "pray away the gay" programs to queer youth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI4-eDG3Bb0 This video covers the little discussed founding of the DOT by Tyler Chase Harper, a high-schooler who told his gay classmates they should be ashamed and are condemned by God. The video also reveals a great deal of troubling material on the DOT's website including information discussing anal sex, bathhouses and a fake medical condition made up by the anti-gay right called "gay bowel syndrome." Some of this material is furnished by Mission America, an organization that actually includes in it's mission statement the need to defend the nation against witchcraft. -Dan Gonzales (I myself am a survivor of one of the "ex-gay" programs promoted by the Day of Truth) Hey if you plan any further coverage of the anti-gay “Day of Truth” this year I wanted to bring your attention to a Youtube video I made examining some of the more troubling aspects of the Day of Truth — Specifically how the DOT is little more than a thinly veiled attempt to promote “pray away the gay” programs to queer youth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI4-eDG3Bb0

This video covers the little discussed founding of the DOT by Tyler Chase Harper, a high-schooler who told his gay classmates they should be ashamed and are condemned by God. The video also reveals a great deal of troubling material on the DOT’s website including information discussing anal sex, bathhouses and a fake medical condition made up by the anti-gay right called “gay bowel syndrome.” Some of this material is furnished by Mission America, an organization that actually includes in it’s mission statement the need to defend the nation against witchcraft.

-Dan Gonzales
(I myself am a survivor of one of the “ex-gay” programs promoted by the Day of Truth)

]]> by: Brazenly Liberal » Wednesday is the national Day of Silence http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-101654 Mon, 05 Jun 2006 10:59:44 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-101654 [...] From Pandagon This event is a day-long vow of silence taken by students who support making anti-LGBT bias unacceptable in schools and to recognize and protest discrimination and harassment. [...] […] From Pandagon This event is a day-long vow of silence taken by students who support making anti-LGBT bias unacceptable in schools and to recognize and protest discrimination and harassment. […]

]]> by: ashley http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-78223 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:12:20 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-78223 so yesterday was the first ive ever heard about the National Day of Silence. i thought i was awesome. i live in a town full of racist and judgemental people. out of a school of 3000+ students i was one of 35 students who participated. i was laughed at and called names by people for being gay... i just kinda laughed it off because im not. but i didnt care. i would have to feel that way everyday of my life like some people have to. so i am in full support of it and everyone who is gay, bi, lesbian, transgenderd. i love everyone for who they are and i just wish society would to. love yall... ashley so yesterday was the first ive ever heard about the National Day of Silence. i thought i was awesome. i live in a town full of racist and judgemental people. out of a school of 3000+ students i was one of 35 students who participated. i was laughed at and called names by people for being gay… i just kinda laughed it off because im not. but i didnt care. i would have to feel that way everyday of my life like some people have to. so i am in full support of it and everyone who is gay, bi, lesbian, transgenderd. i love everyone for who they are and i just wish society would to. love yall…

ashley

]]> by: annonymous http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-76668 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:16:10 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-76668 eventho i havent participated in THE DAY OF SILENCE cuz i didnt kno about it or even thought there was this kind of of program. i totally agree with this students to remain quiet cuz thats how we feel ppl who are bis,lesbians.gays,etc thats the way i feel everyday i happen to be bisexual and it burns me up inside not tellin my friends who i really am. i havent talked to my parents about it. except i told my best friend who i can trust. it burns and it really hurts when u cant tell ppl that ur bi or lesbian and u feel like a liar not tellin them who u are and pretendin to be someone ur not. i have to go through it everyday of my life being quiet and not tellin other ppl to avoid humiliation, im very frightened. i hope ya'll can understand about ppl like me what we have to go through everyday. and for those who support it, im happy and appreciate it that u guys are into this kind of stuff and understand this. thank u very much, annonymous eventho i havent participated in THE DAY OF SILENCE cuz i didnt kno about it or even thought there was this kind of of program. i totally agree with this students to remain quiet cuz thats how we feel ppl who are bis,lesbians.gays,etc thats the way i feel everyday i happen to be bisexual and it burns me up inside not tellin my friends who i really am. i havent talked to my parents about it. except i told my best friend who i can trust. it burns and it really hurts when u cant tell ppl that ur bi or lesbian and u feel like a liar not tellin them who u are and pretendin to be someone ur not. i have to go through it everyday of my life being quiet and not tellin other ppl to avoid humiliation, im very frightened. i hope ya’ll can understand about ppl like me what we have to go through everyday. and for those who support it, im happy and appreciate it that u guys are into this kind of stuff and understand this.
thank u very much,
annonymous

]]> by: (: Tom :) http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-76551 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:37:41 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-76551 <i>Personally I think the best response would be to come back with Ostara candy celebrating the rites of the Goddess, but that’s just me.</i> Me, too! Except it would be secular candy, with every one poiting out another of the fallacies of christianity. I wonder how tolerant these people would be if someone was to traipse around their neighborhood passing out that sort of thing, or tracts titled "The Bible is a fairy tale"? Personally I think the best response would be to come back with Ostara candy celebrating the rites of the Goddess, but that’s just me.

Me, too! Except it would be secular candy, with every one poiting out another of the fallacies of christianity.

I wonder how tolerant these people would be if someone was to traipse around their neighborhood passing out that sort of thing, or tracts titled “The Bible is a fairy tale”?

]]> by: lane http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-76534 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:06:37 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-76534 i personally participated in the Day of Silence. it was a hard school day and i even slipped up a few times. But not having a voice gives you time to think about things. and it's not a contraint in the real meaning. though it did bug the crap out of me to not be able to talk. and then having people not talk, feeling that somehow it was the correct "response". thus, i respect the Christian movement as well, there is a freedom to speak, or rather not speak, showing your idea multiple ways. but the Day of Truth sounds like the coming of the apolocalypse. i personally participated in the Day of Silence. it was a hard school day and i even slipped up a few times.
But not having a voice gives you time to think about things. and it’s not a contraint in the real meaning. though it did bug the crap out of me to not be able to talk. and then having people not talk, feeling that somehow it was the correct “response”.

thus, i respect the Christian movement as well, there is a freedom to speak, or rather not speak, showing your idea multiple ways.
but the Day of Truth sounds like the coming of the apolocalypse.

]]> by: lionkore http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-75475 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:18:14 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-75475 <i>Personally I think the best response would be to come back with Ostara candy celebrating the rites of the Goddess, but that’s just me.</i> I'm with you. Especially since May Eve is this weekend. Happy Beltane, kids, get out there and have a bit of SEX on behalf of mid-spring! bwahaha... Personally I think the best response would be to come back with Ostara candy celebrating the rites of the Goddess, but that’s just me.

I’m with you. Especially since May Eve is this weekend. Happy Beltane, kids, get out there and have a bit of SEX on behalf of mid-spring! bwahaha…

]]> by: felagund http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-75310 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:04:42 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-75310 Yeeeeess, Nunja, and we all feel it's a perfectly fine thing to train small children to think that if they don't obey patriarchal authority unquestioningly they will be sent to a place of eternal punishment after they die, and that they must persuade other children of this fact. A child that young hasn't yet developed the mental capacity to distinguish between observable truth and fairy tales like Jeebus. We're not castigating the child for broaching the rules because the child is too young to know better. We're criticizing the child's parents because they are *abusive and idiotic and batshit crazy* and shouldn't have been allowed to reproduce because they themselves are unable to distinguish between observable reality and fairy tales like the Big Sky God. Yeeeeess, Nunja, and we all feel it’s a perfectly fine thing to train small children to think that if they don’t obey patriarchal authority unquestioningly they will be sent to a place of eternal punishment after they die, and that they must persuade other children of this fact. A child that young hasn’t yet developed the mental capacity to distinguish between observable truth and fairy tales like Jeebus. We’re not castigating the child for broaching the rules because the child is too young to know better. We’re criticizing the child’s parents because they are *abusive and idiotic and batshit crazy* and shouldn’t have been allowed to reproduce because they themselves are unable to distinguish between observable reality and fairy tales like the Big Sky God.

]]> by: Nunja Bidnet http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-75075 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:21:16 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-75075 bd222-- I was not addressing anything any other contributor to this discussion wrote, I was speaking directly to "Pam," whose most ridiculous, Constitutionally-ignorant statement I pasted and challenged. Schools may, within a specific framework (refer to Tinker, not the recent Harper decision, which will be put on a roll in the outhouse post haste), restrict expression at school. However, the rules must apply across the board and religious expression may not be singled out for targeted hostility or banning by a state entity. That is what makes the Easter candy situation so clearly unconstitutional. I read this blog and Pam's own blog a couple time a week and I KNOW that many people here would gladly forget about that troublesome First Amendment's application to religious expression if given a choice or a chance. I have many examples on which I base my conclusions, this is just the latest and one of the more distasteful. bd222–

I was not addressing anything any other contributor to this discussion wrote, I was speaking directly to “Pam,” whose most ridiculous, Constitutionally-ignorant statement I pasted and challenged.

Schools may, within a specific framework (refer to Tinker, not the recent Harper decision, which will be put on a roll in the outhouse post haste), restrict expression at school. However, the rules must apply across the board and religious expression may not be singled out for targeted hostility or banning by a state entity. That is what makes the Easter candy situation so clearly unconstitutional.

I read this blog and Pam’s own blog a couple time a week and I KNOW that many people here would gladly forget about that troublesome First Amendment’s application to religious expression if given a choice or a chance. I have many examples on which I base my conclusions, this is just the latest and one of the more distasteful.

]]> by: belledame222 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-74889 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:25:54 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/04/25/wednesday-is-the-national-day-of-silence/#comment-74889 Oh for fuck's sake, Nunca. It's a school; it may well be within his First Amendment rights (if you'll notice, some people here are actually arguing that very point), but since when have kids been considered fully-endowed-with-their-rights people? If the school can send you home for wearing an "offensive" T-shirt, they can ban the sugary proselytization. If they can't, well, that's another story. Personally I think the best response would be to come back with Ostara candy celebrating the rites of the Goddess, but that's just me. Oh for fuck’s sake, Nunca. It’s a school; it may well be within his First Amendment rights (if you’ll notice, some people here are actually arguing that very point), but since when have kids been considered fully-endowed-with-their-rights people? If the school can send you home for wearing an “offensive” T-shirt, they can ban the sugary proselytization. If they can’t, well, that’s another story.

Personally I think the best response would be to come back with Ostara candy celebrating the rites of the Goddess, but that’s just me.

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