Comments on: Sex: Evil or just merely wicked? http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:58:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Margaret Cho Blog » Blog Archive » Stress Signal in South Dakota http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-223439 Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:00:06 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-223439 [...] Related blog reading: Keep Your Legs Together in South Dakota Your Baby’s Daddy is Your Daddy and I Don’t Care The Sodomized Virgin Exception Don’t Fuck Control and Sex Sex: Evil or Just Merely Wicked? [...] […] Related blog reading: Keep Your Legs Together in South Dakota Your Baby’s Daddy is Your Daddy and I Don’t Care The Sodomized Virgin Exception Don’t Fuck Control and Sex Sex: Evil or Just Merely Wicked? […]

]]> by: Capt. B http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-61658 Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:55:55 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-61658 I am a 67 yrs old male and will never understand why there is a question about abortion.On some issues I am to the right of Attila the Hun and others to the left of Teddy Kennedy.On abortions,leave it legal.No other person in this world really knows how the woman feels about having an abortion.She has enough on her plate without hearing from men who can never become pregnant.The folks opposed to abortion have too much time on their hands.They need to get involved with useful things.I could list a thousand things to keep these folks buzy,BUT,it would never get them on T.V.Or their names in the newspapers.Oh well, life would be so dull without the folks who try and make everyone else as miserable as they are.The Capt. I am a 67 yrs old male and will never understand why there is a question about abortion.On some issues I am to the right of Attila the Hun and others to the left of Teddy Kennedy.On abortions,leave it legal.No other person in this world really knows how the woman feels about having an abortion.She has enough on her plate without hearing from men who can never become pregnant.The folks opposed to abortion have too much time on their hands.They need to get involved with useful things.I could list a thousand things to keep these folks buzy,BUT,it would never get them on T.V.Or their names in the newspapers.Oh well, life would be so dull without the folks who try and make everyone else as miserable as they are.The Capt.

]]> by: Taube http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58324 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:44:56 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58324 I'm a single woman on the pill, and I would be happy if there were male contraceptives, but it wouldn't stop me from taking mine. Most women who are actively trying to avoid pregnancy do double-duty contraceptives anyway - condoms and the pill, for example. I can't help but think the risk would be so much lower if both the man and the woman were on contraceptives. I’m a single woman on the pill, and I would be happy if there were male contraceptives, but it wouldn’t stop me from taking mine. Most women who are actively trying to avoid pregnancy do double-duty contraceptives anyway - condoms and the pill, for example. I can’t help but think the risk would be so much lower if both the man and the woman were on contraceptives.

]]> by: Colorado Dave http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58119 Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:26:56 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58119 D Thanks for the info. That article was dated in 1998 which is probably about the time I heard of the report. The article didn't include a name for this contraceptive other than being a combination of a progesterone pill and a testosterone patch. I wonder what ever became of this...hmmm I see googling in my future. D

Thanks for the info. That article was dated in 1998 which is probably about the time I heard of the report.
The article didn’t include a name for this contraceptive other than being a combination of a progesterone pill and a testosterone patch.

I wonder what ever became of this…hmmm I see googling in my future.

]]> by: D http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58109 Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:04:19 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58109 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/315659.stm Its been around for a while. The trick would be if you can get access to it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/315659.stm

Its been around for a while. The trick would be if you can get access to it.

]]> by: Colorado Dave http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58107 Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:59:22 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58107 This seems as good a thread as any to ask this question (I honestly thought this thread was dead). Does anyone know of any research being done in regards to male contraceptives? Currently, as far as I know, we have two options vasectomy and condoms, neither is ideal. Vasectomies are permanent and condoms often break and most women I know dislike them almost as much as men. I would be happy to take a shot, pill or patch to temporarily halt production of my little fishies until such time as I wanted some fishies. I would love to give my wife a break from having to use a shot, patch or pill and since I have a better memory in regards taking daily vitamins I'm actually the more logical one to have to do so. I recall some years ago reading a report about this subject which stated that even if there were such a thing the majority of women would not trust their partners when the guy says "I'm on the pill." I can understand this sentiment from single women but I wonder how many married women would trust their husbands in this matter. If any of the women on this site are still following this thread I would be interested in knowing your feelings about this. (As an aside sorry about my misspelling earlier If I were to believe in any deity that wasn't pasta based it would be dessert based, specifically chocolate. Desert Gods however need to join Zeus and Ra in oblivion.) This seems as good a thread as any to ask this question (I honestly thought this thread was dead).

Does anyone know of any research being done in regards to male contraceptives?

Currently, as far as I know, we have two options vasectomy and condoms, neither is ideal. Vasectomies are permanent and condoms often break and most women I know dislike them almost as much as men.

I would be happy to take a shot, pill or patch to temporarily halt production of my little fishies until such time as I wanted some fishies. I would love to give my wife a break from having to use a shot, patch or pill and since I have a better memory in regards taking daily vitamins I’m actually the more logical one to have to do so.

I recall some years ago reading a report about this subject which stated that even if there were such a thing the majority of women would not trust their partners when the guy says “I’m on the pill.”

I can understand this sentiment from single women but I wonder how many married women would trust their husbands in this matter. If any of the women on this site are still following this thread I would be interested in knowing your feelings about this.

(As an aside sorry about my misspelling earlier If I were to believe in any deity that wasn’t pasta based it would be dessert based, specifically chocolate. Desert Gods however need to join Zeus and Ra in oblivion.)

]]> by: Erika http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58100 Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:26:34 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58100 The more I hear about this debate. The more I hear about horrible parents who let their children starve to death, abuse their children, or shake their babies to death. (This usually happens when the parents are ridiculously young and don't know better.) Then, the more I'm convinced that abortion is the responsible choice. Irresponsible women and girls aren't vigilant about birth control, get pregnant, don't really think about the real consequences of parenthood, have the baby, and then don't take care of the child properly. I'm much more judgmental of women who get pregnant and figure "well, might as well have it," than women who are aware of the responsibilities of parenthood and acknowledge that they can't handle it. The more I hear about this debate. The more I hear about horrible parents who let their children starve to death, abuse their children, or shake their babies to death. (This usually happens when the parents are ridiculously young and don’t know better.) Then, the more I’m convinced that abortion is the responsible choice. Irresponsible women and girls aren’t vigilant about birth control, get pregnant, don’t really think about the real consequences of parenthood, have the baby, and then don’t take care of the child properly. I’m much more judgmental of women who get pregnant and figure “well, might as well have it,” than women who are aware of the responsibilities of parenthood and acknowledge that they can’t handle it.

]]> by: mythago http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58071 Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:22:01 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58071 <i>I said “I hope you’re ready to be daddies, boys. Last time abortion was illegal they didn’t have DNA testing� and they all looked stunned.</i> Houston, the clue has landed. I said “I hope you’re ready to be daddies, boys. Last time abortion was illegal they didn’t have DNA testing� and they all looked stunned.

Houston, the clue has landed.

]]> by: Carolyn Kay http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58068 Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:13:02 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-58068 MJ: These people don't believe the rules apply to THEM. It's OTHER PEOPLE who have abortions willy-nilly and who have to be kept from having them. The ones in favor of this bill will just come to Illinois or go to California to get THEIR abortions. They haven't even thought about why there are no penalties for women in this bill, only for doctors. See the video. http://www.atcenternetwork.com/?p=64 Carolyn Kay MakeThemAccountable.com MJ:

These people don’t believe the rules apply to THEM. It’s OTHER PEOPLE who have abortions willy-nilly and who have to be kept from having them. The ones in favor of this bill will just come to Illinois or go to California to get THEIR abortions.

They haven’t even thought about why there are no penalties for women in this bill, only for doctors. See the video.
http://www.atcenternetwork.com/?p=64

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

]]> by: dana http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-57508 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:57:16 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/03/05/sex-evil-or-just-merely-wicked/#comment-57508 Zac: The right to reproductive choice has almost zip to do with whether a person wants to be a parent. It has just about everything to do with whether a *woman* wants her body used as a life support machine. There is no biological equivalent for men, although there are medical equivalents, such as blood and organ donation. In every single case a man must opt-in and consent before his body is used to such ends. He may withdraw consent at any time until the procedure is completed (blood put into another person, etc.). The right to contraception and abortion for women is about the right of women to own our own bodies, to not support other people's bodies with our own until and unless we consent to same. I'm sorry you feel bad about being a single parent but the truth is, even when one wishes to be a parent, the experience rarely turns out as planned. Your experience has nada to do with whether a woman has the right to consent to a pregnancy. Zac: The right to reproductive choice has almost zip to do with whether a person wants to be a parent. It has just about everything to do with whether a *woman* wants her body used as a life support machine.

There is no biological equivalent for men, although there are medical equivalents, such as blood and organ donation. In every single case a man must opt-in and consent before his body is used to such ends. He may withdraw consent at any time until the procedure is completed (blood put into another person, etc.).

The right to contraception and abortion for women is about the right of women to own our own bodies, to not support other people’s bodies with our own until and unless we consent to same.

I’m sorry you feel bad about being a single parent but the truth is, even when one wishes to be a parent, the experience rarely turns out as planned. Your experience has nada to do with whether a woman has the right to consent to a pregnancy.

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