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		<title>by: culturekitchen</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48914</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Scent of a Woman's Ink...&lt;/strong&gt;


(original painting by Caoily Andrews)
It feels as if there is nothing else to say about the supposed dearth of women bloggers. Just take our word for it: they're out there. Each week, I'll bring you an extremely limited sampling of writing that got ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>The Scent of a Woman&#8217;s Ink&#8230;</strong></p>
	<p>(original painting by Caoily Andrews)<br />
It feels as if there is nothing else to say about the supposed dearth of women bloggers. Just take our word for it: they&#8217;re out there. Each week, I&#8217;ll bring you an extremely limited sampling of writing that got &#8230;
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		<title>by: alsis39.5</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48913</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So Fr**p*rs are essentially admitting that they're lousy in bed, and the only way they can hope to have sex with their wives is to blackmail, bully or beat it out of them...

I guess fearing a &quot;false&quot; rape charge from the wife is the natural price of being too much of a selfish pig to find out what kind of sex their wives might enjoy.  NOTA forbid you should talk to your wife and treat her as an equal rather than a sperm receptacle.

It's hilarious that these guys whine about feminists being &quot;dykes,&quot; &quot;man-haters,&quot; what-have-you, when they themselves are the best free advertising for staying single around.  I could never come up with a hatchet job that could compete with what it says about these guys that they worship some clown like Paglia, Shlaffley, Coulter, or the IWF Maidens...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So Fr**p*rs are essentially admitting that they&#8217;re lousy in bed, and the only way they can hope to have sex with their wives is to blackmail, bully or beat it out of them&#8230;</p>
	<p>I guess fearing a &#8220;false&#8221; rape charge from the wife is the natural price of being too much of a selfish pig to find out what kind of sex their wives might enjoy.  NOTA forbid you should talk to your wife and treat her as an equal rather than a sperm receptacle.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s hilarious that these guys whine about feminists being &#8220;dykes,&#8221; &#8220;man-haters,&#8221; what-have-you, when they themselves are the best free advertising for staying single around.  I could never come up with a hatchet job that could compete with what it says about these guys that they worship some clown like Paglia, Shlaffley, Coulter, or the IWF Maidens&#8230;
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		<title>by: Hershele Ostropoler</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48892</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Spousal rape laws, like spousal consent for abortion, is an area in which it seems to me the wingnuts are treating marriage as adversarial. &quot;If a man can't rape his wife, how can they have sex, with all the bonding and procreation that come from that?&quot; &quot;If she can just up and get an abortion without telling her husband, they'll never have children!&quot; Aside from the assumption that no woman ever &lt;b&gt;wants&lt;/b&gt; sex or children, this assumes that people feel no obligation towards even those people they ostensibly love than what is imposed by the State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Spousal rape laws, like spousal consent for abortion, is an area in which it seems to me the wingnuts are treating marriage as adversarial. &#8220;If a man can&#8217;t rape his wife, how can they have sex, with all the bonding and procreation that come from that?&#8221; &#8220;If she can just up and get an abortion without telling her husband, they&#8217;ll never have children!&#8221; Aside from the assumption that no woman ever <b>wants</b> sex or children, this assumes that people feel no obligation towards even those people they ostensibly love than what is imposed by the State.
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		<title>by: aeonsomnia</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48736</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Since I'm responsible for posting Schlafly's op-ed, I'll give my opinion on what she's trying to accomplish.

Admittedly, the man in question may possibly be innocent (like someone else said above, though, I too automatically disbelieve anything that comes from Townhall. Carrying on...)  However, Schlafly's using this case to imply that &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; spousal rape cases are frivolous &amp;amp; spurious, and that poor poor dear men would still have their &quot;conjugal rights&quot; i.e. be able to force women to have sex, if it wasn't for those &quot;hairy-legged, man-hating malicious feminists&quot; agitating for laws against husbands raping wives.

Spousal rape laws are one of those topics that make wingnuts' heads spin and laser beams shoot out of their eyes when it's mentioned.  Question wingnuts on their beliefs re: trad marriage &amp;amp; the nuclear family, and they'll eventually bring up the laws against husbands raping wives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Since I&#8217;m responsible for posting Schlafly&#8217;s op-ed, I&#8217;ll give my opinion on what she&#8217;s trying to accomplish.</p>
	<p>Admittedly, the man in question may possibly be innocent (like someone else said above, though, I too automatically disbelieve anything that comes from Townhall. Carrying on&#8230;)  However, Schlafly&#8217;s using this case to imply that <i>all</i> spousal rape cases are frivolous &amp; spurious, and that poor poor dear men would still have their &#8220;conjugal rights&#8221; i.e. be able to force women to have sex, if it wasn&#8217;t for those &#8220;hairy-legged, man-hating malicious feminists&#8221; agitating for laws against husbands raping wives.</p>
	<p>Spousal rape laws are one of those topics that make wingnuts&#8217; heads spin and laser beams shoot out of their eyes when it&#8217;s mentioned.  Question wingnuts on their beliefs re: trad marriage &amp; the nuclear family, and they&#8217;ll eventually bring up the laws against husbands raping wives.
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		<title>by: Magis</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48729</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 18:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Antigone:

I read PS's case too and it doesn't sound very credible.  Not there have never been gross miscarriages of justice....

How come one of these fancy pro bono lawyers didn't file a Â§1983?  Something is missing in that story.

First of all, maybe it makes me dishonorable, but if admission is the only thing that would get me out of the slammer, so be it.  Then I'd try to clear my name.  If the case is that good why don't some of the MRA's come up with some bucks and make it into a &quot;posterchild&quot; case?

Bullshit meter going off here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Antigone:</p>
	<p>I read PS&#8217;s case too and it doesn&#8217;t sound very credible.  Not there have never been gross miscarriages of justice&#8230;.</p>
	<p>How come one of these fancy pro bono lawyers didn&#8217;t file a Â§1983?  Something is missing in that story.</p>
	<p>First of all, maybe it makes me dishonorable, but if admission is the only thing that would get me out of the slammer, so be it.  Then I&#8217;d try to clear my name.  If the case is that good why don&#8217;t some of the MRA&#8217;s come up with some bucks and make it into a &#8220;posterchild&#8221; case?</p>
	<p>Bullshit meter going off here.
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		<title>by: Blue Jean</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48715</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You're right.  Grandpa Munster got a bigger sendoff than Friedan did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You&#8217;re right.  Grandpa Munster got a bigger sendoff than Friedan did.
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		<title>by: Pepper</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48707</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know what kind of crack Hays is smoking when she says Friedan received a &quot;sendoff.&quot; Compared to what she's done for women, she's been virtually ignored. People like Hays consider any recognition of a feminist a &quot;sendoff.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t know what kind of crack Hays is smoking when she says Friedan received a &#8220;sendoff.&#8221; Compared to what she&#8217;s done for women, she&#8217;s been virtually ignored. People like Hays consider any recognition of a feminist a &#8220;sendoff.&#8221;
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		<title>by: John M. Burt</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48673</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If you seek Betty Friedan's monument, look to your right, your left and in a mirror.  In at least one of those places, you will see a woman doing something that even a woman with Phyllis Schlafly's privileged background could not have done forty years ago.

Ponygirl, don't clean your ear canals with cotton swabs.  Use a large syringe or a turkey baster filled with warm water.  Lean over the sink and let four or five loads of nice warm tapwater melt the wax and flush out the crud.  It works great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you seek Betty Friedan&#8217;s monument, look to your right, your left and in a mirror.  In at least one of those places, you will see a woman doing something that even a woman with Phyllis Schlafly&#8217;s privileged background could not have done forty years ago.</p>
	<p>Ponygirl, don&#8217;t clean your ear canals with cotton swabs.  Use a large syringe or a turkey baster filled with warm water.  Lean over the sink and let four or five loads of nice warm tapwater melt the wax and flush out the crud.  It works great.
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		<title>by: NancyP</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48656</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's highly likely that Schlafly was born into the upper middle class or upper class, since she went to undergraduate and law school at Washington Univ, and got a political science MA at Harvard - 9 to 10 years of private school tuition at institutions that didn't give out many full scholarship. And she married well into a prominent Catholic family. The Schlafly family has been locally prominent at since WWII, and another branch of her husband's family was involved in Catholic school desegregation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s highly likely that Schlafly was born into the upper middle class or upper class, since she went to undergraduate and law school at Washington Univ, and got a political science MA at Harvard - 9 to 10 years of private school tuition at institutions that didn&#8217;t give out many full scholarship. And she married well into a prominent Catholic family. The Schlafly family has been locally prominent at since WWII, and another branch of her husband&#8217;s family was involved in Catholic school desegregation.
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		<title>by: NancyP</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2006/02/06/but-i-thought-making-speeches-and-writing-books-was-housework/#comment-48655</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd guess that Phyllis hasn't picked up a mop, sponge, or vacuum cleaner for a good many years (40?) - that's what servants are for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d guess that Phyllis hasn&#8217;t picked up a mop, sponge, or vacuum cleaner for a good many years (40?) - that&#8217;s what servants are for.
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