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		<title>by: PhysioProf</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-474481</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;I suppose he’s the kind of guy who likes the Bananarama version of 'Venus' better than the version by Shocking Blue: a totally sheltered square. What a fucking dork.&quot;

What does that make me if I have no idea what you are talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I suppose he’s the kind of guy who likes the Bananarama version of &#8216;Venus&#8217; better than the version by Shocking Blue: a totally sheltered square. What a fucking dork.&#8221;</p>
	<p>What does that make me if I have no idea what you are talking about?
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		<title>by: [i:rrhoblog] : linkdump</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10999</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:04:22 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;http://www.rochuswolff.de/weblog/linkdump/2005/07/#d06h00.04.09&lt;/strong&gt;

Next week IWF blames feminism for global warming...
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	<p>Next week IWF blames feminism for global warming&#8230;
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		<title>by: Peter VE</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10998</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:04:17 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10998</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;I love the &quot;truth&quot; that as you age (if you're female) you grow uglier by definition. I think I'm better looking now than I was as a teenager--not awkward, no baby fat, know how to dress better, no acne.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;And if you keep at it long enough, you might end up as beautiful as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.charlotterampling.net/2-posing/posing-05/images/posing_0085.JPG&quot;&gt;Charlotte Rampling&lt;/a&gt; is today.  In fact, I'm pretty sure all women who blog left and write well (Amanda Marcotte, Susie Madrak, Jeanne D'Arc, &amp; c.) look like Charlotte Rampling, (but that's just my fantasy).  On the other hand, any woman who has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jerseygop.com/R_babes/&quot;&gt;Republican Babe of the Week&lt;/a&gt; is probably headed &lt;a href=&quot;http://swirley.home.att.net/tammy.jpg&quot;&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;p&gt;I wonder if Mr. Allen agrees with Ms. Allen, and intends to dump her for the Gingrich model trophy wife?  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I love the &#8220;truth&#8221; that as you age (if you&#8217;re female) you grow uglier by definition. I think I&#8217;m better looking now than I was as a teenager&#8211;not awkward, no baby fat, know how to dress better, no acne.</i>
<p>And if you keep at it long enough, you might end up as beautiful as <a href="http://www.charlotterampling.net/2-posing/posing-05/images/posing_0085.JPG">Charlotte Rampling</a> is today.  In fact, I&#8217;m pretty sure all women who blog left and write well (Amanda Marcotte, Susie Madrak, Jeanne D&#8217;Arc, &#038; c.) look like Charlotte Rampling, (but that&#8217;s just my fantasy).  On the other hand, any woman who has been <a href="http://www.jerseygop.com/R_babes/">Republican Babe of the Week</a> is probably headed <a href="http://swirley.home.att.net/tammy.jpg"> here</a>.
<p>I wonder if Mr. Allen agrees with Ms. Allen, and intends to dump her for the Gingrich model trophy wife?  </p></p>
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		<title>by: bellatrys</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10997</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:14:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Steyn's up here? I wonder if I've ever run into him...it's a small enough state, it's entirely possible. Lessee, could he be the snotty guy who thought I should be impressed that he worked for some big finance company as I dealt with his order, or the jerk who got impatient when we were trying to find the book he wanted out back amid all the masses of stock and shelves - at Christmas - or just one of the guys who cuts me off in monster SUV (oblivious to the fact that doing so one of these days when it's icy is going to roll him right off of 93-S...)

Or maybe he's one of the passive aggressive faux-polite pseudo-chivalrous smarmy ones, who patronize &quot;the help&quot; and don't realize that we think they're lower than gum on the bottoms of shoes as they do so. 

Oh, and Steyn should be grateful he's up here *now* - I remember when the terminal was so small that to get to your plane for a regional shuttle flight, you had to go out a door and walk over the runway to climb a rollout-stepladder, instead of having a boarding tube. And that wasn't all that long ago. 

--Then again, I suppose it never occurs to him that his flight crew and staff might be stressed out for another reason - that they actually have a *legitimate* worry about terrorism, and not just the Boston connection - one of the killed 9/11 pilots came from the next town over where I used to work. 

Ye gods, it must be nice to live in their insulated little bubble world... Idea for a bumper sticker: Why Yes, The World DOES Revolve Around Me - I'm A Republican!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Steyn&#8217;s up here? I wonder if I&#8217;ve ever run into him&#8230;it&#8217;s a small enough state, it&#8217;s entirely possible. Lessee, could he be the snotty guy who thought I should be impressed that he worked for some big finance company as I dealt with his order, or the jerk who got impatient when we were trying to find the book he wanted out back amid all the masses of stock and shelves - at Christmas - or just one of the guys who cuts me off in monster SUV (oblivious to the fact that doing so one of these days when it&#8217;s icy is going to roll him right off of 93-S&#8230;)</p>
	<p>Or maybe he&#8217;s one of the passive aggressive faux-polite pseudo-chivalrous smarmy ones, who patronize &#8220;the help&#8221; and don&#8217;t realize that we think they&#8217;re lower than gum on the bottoms of shoes as they do so. </p>
	<p>Oh, and Steyn should be grateful he&#8217;s up here *now* - I remember when the terminal was so small that to get to your plane for a regional shuttle flight, you had to go out a door and walk over the runway to climb a rollout-stepladder, instead of having a boarding tube. And that wasn&#8217;t all that long ago. </p>
	<p>&#8211;Then again, I suppose it never occurs to him that his flight crew and staff might be stressed out for another reason - that they actually have a *legitimate* worry about terrorism, and not just the Boston connection - one of the killed 9/11 pilots came from the next town over where I used to work. </p>
	<p>Ye gods, it must be nice to live in their insulated little bubble world&#8230; Idea for a bumper sticker: Why Yes, The World DOES Revolve Around Me - I&#8217;m A Republican!
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		<title>by: mythago _</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10996</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:14:23 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;But FFS, would it hurt them to smile a little?&lt;/i&gt;

What's this obsession with smiling? If they're actually *rude*, that's one thing, and you'll be wanting to complain to the airline. But complaining that you didn't get smiled at by a woman--well, I don't have to tell you how that sounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>But FFS, would it hurt them to smile a little?</i></p>
	<p>What&#8217;s this obsession with smiling? If they&#8217;re actually *rude*, that&#8217;s one thing, and you&#8217;ll be wanting to complain to the airline. But complaining that you didn&#8217;t get smiled at by a woman&#8211;well, I don&#8217;t have to tell you how that sounds.
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		<title>by: The Dark Avenger</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10995</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:56:40 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Complaining about the help is so 19th Century.

Amanda is right.  If white-looking guys like me had to put up with the shit women go through for the sin of living and aging, plastic surgery would probably be goverment-subsidized. The French would be noted by some in not giving in to sexism and showing 'older men' who have flabby chests, big stomachs, three chins, etc. in their movies. American actors would migrate to England when they turn 40 if they didn't want to go into the theater exclusively, take up teaching and/or directing, as the reign of King Victor demonstrated that male age can equal wisdom, stereotypes to the contrary in America.
 
I'd also be pissed off by all the women my age dating younger, better-looking guys, while I have to make do with the rare woman who'd be capable of looking past my few but increasingly common white hairs and wrinkles.  Probably only someone raised by hippies would go out with me by then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Complaining about the help is so 19th Century.</p>
	<p>Amanda is right.  If white-looking guys like me had to put up with the shit women go through for the sin of living and aging, plastic surgery would probably be goverment-subsidized. The French would be noted by some in not giving in to sexism and showing &#8216;older men&#8217; who have flabby chests, big stomachs, three chins, etc. in their movies. American actors would migrate to England when they turn 40 if they didn&#8217;t want to go into the theater exclusively, take up teaching and/or directing, as the reign of King Victor demonstrated that male age can equal wisdom, stereotypes to the contrary in America.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;d also be pissed off by all the women my age dating younger, better-looking guys, while I have to make do with the rare woman who&#8217;d be capable of looking past my few but increasingly common white hairs and wrinkles.  Probably only someone raised by hippies would go out with me by then.
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		<title>by: Amanda Marcotte</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10994</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:05:10 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Well, we have been on different flights then. The old ones have always been more surly to me.&lt;/i&gt;

I've noticed in many, many forums that men who continually deride women for the sin of aging then turn around and complain about older women not being nice to them.  Makes one wonder if women, and I know this is hard to believe, respond badly to men who regard them as if they were looking at a piece of dog shit on the bottom of their shoes?  Couldn't be.

I particularly like the MRA-types who complain that older women aren't fun to date because they won't put up with a bunch of shit.  Which of course, is tacitly admitting that they give women a lot of shit to put up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Well, we have been on different flights then. The old ones have always been more surly to me.</i></p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve noticed in many, many forums that men who continually deride women for the sin of aging then turn around and complain about older women not being nice to them.  Makes one wonder if women, and I know this is hard to believe, respond badly to men who regard them as if they were looking at a piece of dog shit on the bottom of their shoes?  Couldn&#8217;t be.</p>
	<p>I particularly like the MRA-types who complain that older women aren&#8217;t fun to date because they won&#8217;t put up with a bunch of shit.  Which of course, is tacitly admitting that they give women a lot of shit to put up with.
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		<title>by: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10993</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:56:47 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>My second thought about this column is:  why the hell didn't they press the flight attendant button and wait, oh, five minutes for a response instead of following the poor woman down the aisle yelling at her for not responding to a request she didn't even hear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My second thought about this column is:  why the hell didn&#8217;t they press the flight attendant button and wait, oh, five minutes for a response instead of following the poor woman down the aisle yelling at her for not responding to a request she didn&#8217;t even hear?
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		<title>by: SZ</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2005/07/03/next-week-iwf-blames-feminism-for-global-warming/#comment-10992</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 06:07:38 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>A few months ago, Matt Towery wrote TWO columns about how since the airlines were deregulated, people in tank tops and flip flops could afford to fly, and so did so for no real purpose, thus spreading their germs and creating delays and inconvenince for the people who paid full fare and so DESERVED to fly (you know, people like him).  It was classism at its best.  But at least he didn't blame it all on feminism.
Here's a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townhall.com/columnists/matttowery/mt20041116.shtml&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to the first of the two columns.

And an ongoing theme with Ann Coulter is that affluent blonde women (you know, people like her) shouldn't be bothered with any airport security procedures.  So, I think the basic problem conservatives have with airline travel is that it isn't elitist enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A few months ago, Matt Towery wrote TWO columns about how since the airlines were deregulated, people in tank tops and flip flops could afford to fly, and so did so for no real purpose, thus spreading their germs and creating delays and inconvenince for the people who paid full fare and so DESERVED to fly (you know, people like him).  It was classism at its best.  But at least he didn&#8217;t blame it all on feminism.<br />
Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/matttowery/mt20041116.shtml">link</a> to the first of the two columns.</p>
	<p>And an ongoing theme with Ann Coulter is that affluent blonde women (you know, people like her) shouldn&#8217;t be bothered with any airport security procedures.  So, I think the basic problem conservatives have with airline travel is that it isn&#8217;t elitist enough.
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		<title>by: R. Mildred</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 05:12:46 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>given that Beauty is Truth and Truth Beauty, isn't Charlotte Allen inerently a wobbly chinned liar?

And why are these people expecting lowpayed service personnel to be submissive models who view the world as their dom? you want happier attendants? They get paid more and your ticket price goes up, you want happier attendants? You should maybe thing about losing the spoilt little attitude that they're there entirely for your amusement and satisfying your tiniest little whim, that they have to be eye candy you can oggle as a sex object says way more about why they should be pissed off at you than anything else. They are women in a service role, they are not whores, they are not there for you to grope and fondle and hurl abuse out rather than do the Oh So complex task of waking your neighbour from their sleep when the cart comes around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>given that Beauty is Truth and Truth Beauty, isn&#8217;t Charlotte Allen inerently a wobbly chinned liar?</p>
	<p>And why are these people expecting lowpayed service personnel to be submissive models who view the world as their dom? you want happier attendants? They get paid more and your ticket price goes up, you want happier attendants? You should maybe thing about losing the spoilt little attitude that they&#8217;re there entirely for your amusement and satisfying your tiniest little whim, that they have to be eye candy you can oggle as a sex object says way more about why they should be pissed off at you than anything else. They are women in a service role, they are not whores, they are not there for you to grope and fondle and hurl abuse out rather than do the Oh So complex task of waking your neighbour from their sleep when the cart comes around.
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